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To: ebb tide; Zionist Conspirator
Anybody who would let a novus ordo seminarian cause him to apostatize from the Catholic Faith, never had the Faith.

It seems to me that sounds similar to a Protestant who finds OSAS threatened and responds in similar kind.

In any case, faith without works is dead and I would that everyone had faith and works according to the grace of God given to everyone as a living soul.

72 posted on 12/03/2015 6:16:25 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
It seems to me that sounds similar to a Protestant who finds OSAS threatened and responds in similar kind.

Hmm. While I can't be sure, I think I detect a bit of a smirk in that remark.

The fact is that either there is zekhut (merit) or there is a loophole. You can't have both. One completely negates the other. With Judaism/Noachism you have zekhut. With Protestantism you have a loophole. Historical chrstianity, however, tries to have both. It makes Protestant arguments against Judaism and then turns around and makes Jewish arguments against Protestantism. This is absurd.

If life really is a tightrope walk over the fires of hell, then chrstianity's vaunted "salvation" is a fraud. If a lifetime of works (including ritual/ceremonial commandments) are valid, then logically the ritual and ceremonial of Judaism are still valid. I disagree with the Protestant insistence that they have been done away with, but at least they have the common decency not to replace them with a post-Biblical imitation.

In historical chrstianity, the death of J*sus apparently serves one purpose: the "abolition" (G-d forbid!) of the Biblical ritual/ceremonial and its replacement by a post-Biblical imitation. Catholicism's/Orthodoxy's arguments against Protestantism in fact are identical to Judaism's arguments against chrstianity, and Catholicism's/Orthodoxy's arguments against Judaism are identical to Protestant arguments against the ancient liturgical churches. You've got yourself in quite a logical mess here. Clearly the whole point is to create an excuse to create a new religion. This is simply a case of fraud.

In any case, faith without works is dead and I would that everyone had faith and works according to the grace of God given to everyone as a living soul.

Which is why Judaism/Noachism are sufficient and no new religion was necessary. (And you do know, don't you, that Eastern Orthodoxy rejects original sin and is by Catholic standards "semi-Pelagian?")

91 posted on 12/11/2015 11:16:11 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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