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The Not-so-Nice Origins and Meanings of the Word "Nice"
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-24-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 11/25/2015 7:02:50 AM PST by Salvation

The Not-so-Nice Origins and Meanings of the Word "Nice"

November 24, 2015

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Words can change meaning over time—sometimes dramatically. For example, "manufactured" originally meant "handmade" (manu (hand) + facere (make)). The word "decimate" used to mean "to reduce by a tenth" (decem = ten); now people usually use it mean "to wipe out completely." The list of examples could go on and on. Yes, words do change meaning over time.

One word that has changed meaning dramatically over time is "nice." Today it is an overused word that usually means pleasant, kind, or easygoing. In our culture there is often a standing admonition that we should be nice, as in "Stop fighting and be nice now!"

But the adjective "nice" once meant anything but nice in the modern sense. Rather, it was a derogatory word used to describe a person as something of a fool.

The word "nice" comes from the Latin nescius, meaning “ignorant, unaware” (ne (not) + scire (know)). The Old French word "nice" (12th century) also came from this Latin root and meant “careless, clumsy, weak, simple, foolish, or stupid.”

In the 13th century, "nice" meant "foolish, stupid, or senseless." In the 14th century, the word started to morph into meaning “fussy, fastidious.” In the 15th century it meant "dainty, delicate." In the 1500s it was used to mean “precise, careful.” By the 18th century it shifted to meaning “agreeable, delightful.” And by the 19th century it had acquired its current connotation of “kind and thoughtful.”

The word "nice" has certainly had a tortured history!

Given its older meaning of "ignorant, stupid, or foolish," it is not surprising that the word "nice" is used only twice in the Douay-Rheims Bible, and in both cases pejoratively.

Today the word can have a meaning that is properly praiseworthy and is basically a synonym for "good." For example, one might comment, "That was a nice distinction you made." Or, observing a sporting event, one might say, "That was a nice move!"

However, I am also convinced that the word "nice" is beginning to return to its less noble meanings. This takes place when it is used in a reductionist manner that seeks to simplify the entire moral life to being "nice." Here, nice is used in the sense of being pleasant and agreeable. To the modern world, in which "pseudo-tolerance" is one of the only “virtues” left, being nice is about the only commandment left. It seems that much will be forgiven a person just so long as he is "nice." And little will be accepted from a person who is not thought of as "nice."

I suppose niceness has its place, but being nice is too akin to being harmless, to being someone who introduces no tension and is most often agreeable. As such, a nice person is not so far away from being a pushover, one who is easily manipulated, silenced, and pressured into tacit approval. And thus "nice" begins to move backward into its older meanings: dainty, agreeable, weak, simple, and even further back into weak, simple, unaware, and ignorant.

The pressure to "be nice" easily translates into pressure to put a dumb grin on your face and pretend that things are great even when they're not. And to the degree that we succumb to this pressure, we allow those who seek to shame us if we aren't nice get to watch with glee as we walk around with s dumb grin. And they get to think of us, "What an ignorant fool. What a useful idiot." And thus "nice" takes up its original meaning.

We follow a Lord who was anything but a harmless hippie, or a kind pushover. He introduced tension, was a sign of contradiction, and was opposed by many because he didn't always say and do pleasant things. Not everything he said was "nice." He often used strong words: hypocrites, brood of vipers, whitewashed tombs, murderers of the prophets, and evildoers. He warned of judgment and Hell. He spoke in parables about burning cities, doom, destruction, wailing and grinding of teeth, and of seeing enemies slain. These are not kind words, but they are loving words, because they seek to shock us unto conversion. They speak to us of our true state if we remain rebels. Jesus certainly didn't end up nailed to cross by being nice in any sense of the word.

In the end, "nice" is a weird word. Its meaning has shifted so many times as to be practically without a stable meaning. Today it has further degraded and increasingly returned to its original meaning. Those who insist on the importance of being "nice" usually mean it for you, but not for themselves. They want to have you walk around with a silly grin on your face, being foolishly pleasant, while they laugh behind your back.

To be sure, being "nice" in its best modern sense has its place. We surely should not go around acting like a grouch all day. But just as being nice has its place, so does being insistent, bold, and uncompromising.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; etymology; linguistics; msgrcharlespope; nice; words
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Any comments on the meaning of nice?
1 posted on 11/25/2015 7:02:50 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 11/25/2015 7:04:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

A caudillo is a “head” but a caudus is a tail.


3 posted on 11/25/2015 7:05:05 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Salvation

Nescire, ich bin ein berliner.


4 posted on 11/25/2015 7:06:02 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Salvation
A NICE song. :-p
5 posted on 11/25/2015 7:08:22 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Salvation

Seems nice has morphed as did the word “flatter/flattery”.


6 posted on 11/25/2015 7:17:20 AM PST by Original Lurker
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To: Salvation

Our President is really, really NICE !!


7 posted on 11/25/2015 7:17:21 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: uglybiker

Ahh, the good old days of the Dr. Demento show..

RE: The “Nice” song


8 posted on 11/25/2015 7:22:21 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Salvation

And I though it was a City in France.


9 posted on 11/25/2015 7:22:56 AM PST by ThomasThomas (I dream of a world where a chicken can cross the road with out having their motives questioned.)
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To: Salvation

So that’s why nice guys finish last!


10 posted on 11/25/2015 7:26:04 AM PST by needmorePaine
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To: Salvation

It is awful that the meaning of nice has changed so much.


12 posted on 11/25/2015 7:31:53 AM PST by ThomasThomas (I dream of a world where a chicken can cross the road with out having their motives questioned.)
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To: Salvation

I remember when “gay” was cheerful and happy go lucky, not a homo pervert. Times and language change I guess.


13 posted on 11/25/2015 7:33:59 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( Kill 'em all, Let GOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Salvation

“Nice guys finish last...”


16 posted on 11/25/2015 7:37:28 AM PST by Redbob (#BlackCoffeeMatters)
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To: Salvation

Not surprised Msgr. Pope would offer this commentary on the word “nice”. Could it be he was thinking about all those upcoming Thanksgiving Day meals and what could be taking place in regards to the conversations tomorrow at the dinner tables.


17 posted on 11/25/2015 7:38:01 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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As did the word "sophisticated" - Originally, it meant "overly made and artificial". NOT "glamorous and elegant" as it is used today. (Though Hollywood/Madison Ave ads are "overly made up, camouflaged and artificial" to an extreme!}
18 posted on 11/25/2015 7:40:03 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I remember seeing Monk episode where he got a job as a fact checker by pointing out that decimate meant to reduce by a tenth. Only Monk.


19 posted on 11/25/2015 8:03:34 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: Salvation

You’re so nice.
You’re not good,
You’re not bad,
You’re just nice.
I’m not good,
I’m not nice,
I’m just right.
I’m the Witch.
You’re the world.

source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/soundtracks/i/intothewoodslyrics/lastmidnightlyrics.html


20 posted on 11/25/2015 8:23:42 AM PST by Mercat
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