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To: Aliska
The above passage validates the "mother of my Lord" and the title Theotokos.

No, it does not. Jesus the man was born. The Deity is eternal and has no birth nor death.

20 posted on 11/06/2015 12:03:23 PM PST by BipolarBob (Remember! This holiday season Don't Drink and Drone.)
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To: BipolarBob
Jesus existed in the Spirit for eons, probably eternally, before he was born as man. Why would Elizabeth under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit call Mary "mother of my Lord"? That's what Theotokos means, mother of Jesus (in the flesh I think). Obviously Mary wasn't mother of Jesus in Heaven. The creed says eternally begotten of the Father.

But Jesus by his own words said "I and the Father are one". Ergo, Jesus is Lord. And Mary is mother of the Lord Jesus in the flesh as Elizabeth addressed her.

Now here I am defending what is true in the Catholic church. There are many things that I don't accept any more and some I'm not sure of.

24 posted on 11/06/2015 12:16:49 PM PST by Aliska
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To: BipolarBob
Jesus the man was born. The Deity is eternal and has no birth nor death.

Who told you to divide the man from the deity? God didn't. Jesus said when you see Him, you see the Father. He is fully man AND fully divine... there is no division within Him.

35 posted on 11/06/2015 12:48:41 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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