Posted on 11/06/2015 11:30:07 AM PST by NYer
well and truly stated! Thank you for ‘wading in’.
I would ask if you actually comprehend the following which you have now posted more than once without any explanation: And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
Your cryptic posting method leaves us seeing you as unable to understand the complexity of the passage thus unable to explain it. As a catholic 'apologist' do you even believe someone can be 'in Him' in this life, without having trudged through catholic purgatory? As a catholic apologist, do you believe it is possible to be keeping His commandments though having sinned during a day? Using your obfuscatory methodology, are you expecting us to be as clueless as you seem happy to be?
I get the impression from some that it’s an icky subject to even talk about. What is sad is how Satan has perverted and cheapened something that was given to us as a blessing and a gift from our Creator intended to bring us into an intimacy with our spouse and a foundation of the family in a civilized society that mirrors the intimacy of Christ and His bride. We need to take it back and reclaim that relationship demonstrating to the fallen world that sex within marriage is the ONLY true context for this precious gift.
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
“unable”
Confirmed.
do you personally 100% of the time keep all of the commandments....and btw, as you're resorting to the OT, do you keep all of the Law perfectly?
It's a yes or no.
If you won't or can't it tells me your answer.
So priests don’t get a call from God to go into the priesthood?
That explains a lot.
Of course.
Didn’t you get the memo?
Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.
Reading comments from Catholics, and having been raised Catholic, I’d have to say yes, that does appear to be what Catholics consider the ideal marriage.
A sexless marriage.
After all, sex for the fun of it has been described in some pretty vulgar terms by Catholics.
You must have missed where Catholic posters claim that Jesus got His blood from Mary.
Okay, so you are not able to be other than cryptic. we understand; ignorance is your bliss.
A catholic isn’t yet born from above by their magicsteeringthem reckoning, so keeping the commandments is not only not possible, it is not going to get them out of the purgatory shuffle.
You do understand that the believer in Christ has passed out of judgment into life eternal as noted in John 3 and 5?
It's only through the blood of Christ we are saved. We cannot earn it.
Ealge guy, we are not discussing brain surgery here. I don't know why this concept is so difficult to understand. It REALLY IS pretty straight forward stuff.
As I am sure you know, I was once a works based religionist, out there trying to establish my own righteousness. It got really frustrating, when I realized I could not live a good enough life to earn my way to Heaven. Thank God I was more like a Berean. I wanted to know the truth.
If people want to try to gain entrance to Heaven based on their good works, I say good luck to them. They will need a ton of it.
End of brain surgery discussion.
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Only sometimes?
Dr. Carson would be proud of your “operation!”
Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.
I lost my memo somewhere along the line.
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Thank you sir. Dr Carson was known to have consulted with me before he performed brain surgery. He knows I wrote the book of instructions on it.
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The question remains you keep avoiding.... do you personally 100% of the time keep all of the commandments....and btw, as you're resorting to the OT, do you keep all of the Law perfectly? It's a yes or no. If you won't or can't it tells me your answer.
Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it: That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning. Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD. Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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