Posted on 11/02/2015 6:56:55 AM PST by Salvation
Not at all. But if you read the forum rules vigorous debate IS allowed and if one does NOT want vigorous debate they are told to avoid non-Caucus threads.
The poster of this thread knows all of this, and posts anyway. No harm no foul, but knock off the whining like some leftist agitators who want to shut up all dissent.
“That title was intended to keep the Protestants who have a thing against anything Catholic from ruining some nice discussions.”
Yeah. Nothing like sitting ‘round the campfire with a mug of cider and discussing ole purgatory with a few friends while listening to the night crickets in the yonder fields.
(Your post gave me a chuckle, at least.)
“In the nicest way possible, I say BS.”
With love and a affection...you’re a dolt.
It must be pretty bad when non-Catholics speak up and say it is over the line.
Bashing Police, we have an emergency in Post 63...
You are doing yourself no favors.
I also look at Purgatory like the washer machine that cleans up dirty clothes.
Jim and the mods can look at my postings and if they find me wanting can act accordingly. God bless them for allowing my ten plus years of dialogue!
I try to use Scripture in my rebuttals, Above I pointed to Romans 4 as a key rebuttal to Charles’ post.
I am afraid that this is going to become a bashing feast.
Right. Purgatory is an idea borrowed from Jews. It is not a punishment. It is a cleansing for the next step up.
Your post gave me a laugh, but you made no case.
When you’re able to back up the ToP from Scripture, holler back at me.
The poster of this thread knew it full well. One day the gambit will be ended.
Got to understand that there are Catholic Christians who also post in the Religion Forum and they do post subjects of interest.
You jumped to an unjustified conclusion. Evangelical belief in the sufficiency of Christ’s atonement is not an invitation to become a spiritual sloth. Quite the opposite. Yet we are aware it seems paradoxical. The natural man, with no life from God, would take that news just as you say, as an opportunity to sin without consequences. But that message is not for the lost, but for the regenerate and well beloved child of God, whose heart is filled with the impulse of spiritual life, the strong desire to please God, to become imitators of Him, as a child imitates a well-beloved parent.
No, the nastiness is in the concept of an incomplete accomplishment of Christ in dying for us. If that penalty has in fact been paid, then God is unjust in requiring it to be paid a second time. If “it is finished” is true, we cannot make God a liar by denying the completeness of it. All that remains is to appropriate the benefit, which we do by faith in the Son of God, and not by our own discredited deeds.
Yet paradoxically, once we are in Christ, it also obtains that He is in us, and by His Spirit lives out His own righteousness through us, and so transforms us from aliens in darkness to children of the light, who walk in love for Him, for all who belong to Him, and for the lost of the world, that they may come to know Him. Law is fulfilled in love. And so we have both.
Peace,
SR
These always do become a bash fest, when anyone, not just Salvation, posts any thread that is favorable to or promotes Catholicism. That’s just the nature of the beast.
Jim never said that all Catholic bashing would stop. He ordered that the daily posting of whole THREADS, that were ANTI-Catholic (and didn’t PROmote anything) would stop. Let’s be reasonable here.
Complaining about those who still choose to “bash” Catholicism, in individual POSTS (not whole threads) is not going to get us anywhere and in fact, might make Jim regret his initial decision. Let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face, be grateful for what we got, which was a miracle in of itself, and move on.
Besides we shouldn’t want any individual post censored (beyond the usual rules of no violence no racism etc), because advocating censorship only comes back to bite in the end. Let the ones with only hate for Catholicism in their heart go on until eternity. We all know who those “usual suspects” are and we also know (or should know) they will use a call for censorship to further a cause to reinstate those God-awful daily bashing THREADS, that didn’t seek to build anything up just tear down. Do we want to go back to those days? I assume the answer is no, so again let’s be thankful for what we got and offer up the rest to God as United suffering for the world’s conversion.
I’m sorry to post this publicly I thought long and hard about FReepmailjng and really this isn’t directed to you two it’s for anyone who still complains about the Catholic bashing. We got all we can reasonably hope for on a site that’s not even supposed to be about religion in general much less the Catholic religion.
I do, and found this a subject of interest. I don’t agree with Charles here and said so, using Romans 4 and Abraham.
“This is what Jesus needs today - help with his cross - not people arguing about it.”
Concur. I really don’t care if I make scot-free into heaven or if I get cleansed (although I would probably prefer the first from my Earthly perspective).
Any amount of time in-between is a nothing compared to infinity.
Just trying to lighten up what I knew was going to be a contentious thread.
I hear ya. But why post this in the open and then start whining about bashing? This ain’t the poster’s first time at the rodeo. Oh well, I guess I need to take your advice and lighten up a bit! Hope you have a good rest of day...I’m going to work.
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