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To: daniel1212
Wrong, as you mistook the church at Rome for the Roman Catholic of the Roman Empire,

Yet you did not use that expression, you wrote "Wrong, as the church of Rome simply did not exist as a visible church in the NT," and what you wrote was false as I proved from the scriptures. There was a church in Rome in the time period of the New Testament. It was catholic in that it had the same faith as the other catholic churches that the Apostle wrote about knowing the faith of the church of Rome.

401 posted on 10/23/2015 7:44:11 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; daniel1212
Dude, context is not your friend is it??

What do catholics and the Clintons have in common?

parsing words.

404 posted on 10/23/2015 8:02:44 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: af_vet_1981; If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
Yet you did not use that expression, you wrote "Wrong, as the church of Rome simply did not exist as a visible church in the NT,"

You do understand context do you not? Do you honestly really think that in responding to the assertion that "the Church that brought you the Bible and even the FIRST English translation" then i, who am well aware book of Romans, was thinking of and referring to the church at Rome? Do you???

Moreover, "church of Rome" is a common handle for the RCC, due to the historical location of its headquarters, and even its affinity with the nature of imperial Rome. And to be precise, in Scripture no church is ever named as being the church of a city, but are said to be the church of the people who dwell there (as in "church of the Thessalonians").

As in another case, I apologize for not making it clear enough (for either the ignorant or some hungry fault-finding RCs). Never presume what should be obvious will be.

450 posted on 10/24/2015 1:05:53 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: af_vet_1981; daniel1212

No. You are wrong.

It was the church IN Rome.

Not the church OF Rome -ie Catholicism.


486 posted on 10/24/2015 5:14:46 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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