Posted on 10/18/2015 10:17:38 AM PDT by ebb tide
Pope Francis marks 50th anniversary of Synods institution
Finally, explained Pope Francis, the synodal process culminates in listening to the Bishop of Rome, called upon to speak authoritatively [It. pronunciare] as Shepherd and Teacher of all Christians: not on the basis of his personal beliefs, but as the supreme witness of the Faith of the whole Church, the guarantor of the Churchs conformity with and obedience to the will of God, to the Gospel of Christ and the Tradition of the Church.
And in totally, we swear, completely unrelated news
Traits of narcissistic personality disorder: The most telling thing that narcissists do is contradict themselves. They will do this virtually in the same sentence, without even stopping to take a breath. It can be trivial (e.g., about what they want for lunch) or it can be serious (e.g., about whether or not they love you). When you ask them which one they mean, theyll deny ever saying the first one, though it may literally have been only seconds since they said it really, how could you think theyd ever have said that? You need to have your head examined!
UPDATE: an explanatory comment from my Guy Inside
Hes fudging hes strongly implying infallibility, but not saying that he will pronounce infallibly.
He wants everyone to come away with Whoa
this is infallible. We hear and obey! but leaving plausible deniability to say, No, no, I never claimed this particular bit was infallible
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Funny you should mention the New Revised American Bible. We’re in the process of clearing our home of any post-Vatican II “Catholic” books.
Check paragraph 841 and get back to us. Catholic Catechism
Moses, Ezekiel, Isaiah et al were Catholic? LOL.
By your lights I guess even the Pope is not Catholic!
Here’s the issue. It’s not about adultery. If that were the case, Christ would have not extended the Divine Encounter to the much-married Samaritan woman. There are all kinds of “adultery.”
For example, Matthew 5:28 recites “But *I* say unto you, that every one who looks upon a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” And yet there is forgiveness for adultery.
The re-married Catholic cannot be denied the Divine Encounter regardless of circumstances. This is why we have annulments. The process is costly, time-consuming, and has the qualities of a trial by jury. Annulments are not just for the rich and well-connected.
We have a universal Church that extends to the peripheries of our society. The re-married Catholic cannot be told that he/she can accept the invitation to the Divine Banquet but is barred from Life-Giving Eucharistic food and be apartheid to the back of the Church. His only option then is (a) to disown the second marriage and live like brother and sister notwithstanding the fact that they may have children from this second marriage; (b) simply attend the Mass as nothing more than a ritual exercise ; or (c) be condemned to join a Protestant heretical sect that does not believe in the Holy Eucharist.
None of these options are realistic.
That you constantly keep posting stuff here that denigrates the Vicar of Christ and holds up to to ridicule any attempt at pastoral reconciliation makes me run back the question “Are you even a Catholic,” on yourself.
You write like a liberal.
And then God gave you His Church, the Mystical Body of Christ on Earth. It’s extremely arrogant of you to clam that you have even read the Word. Obviously, you have not.
If you even believe in the Holy Bible, you deny what is in it— the clear and obvious establishment of the priesthood in both the Old Testament and the New Testament, which itself was written by Apostle *priests*. You and yours have no relationship whatsoever to the church as set forth in the Bible.
But in the synod, is he speaking from the Chair of Peter?
“Divine encounters”
“Peripheries”
You’re spouting nonsense. And I don’t consider you a Catholic.
He writes like a Protestant or an apostate Catholic.
Now that I've thought about it for a few minutes, he writes like sinkspur (Gosh that takes me back)... same difference I think.
It is about the indissolubility of marriage. "Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder." (Matthew 19:6) Those who deliberately disregard God's clear directive on this matter have (by their own free will) REJECTED the "Divine Encounter".
CCC 1874 To choose deliberately - that is, both knowing it and willing it - something gravely contrary to the divine law and to the ultimate end of man is to commit a mortal sin. This destroys in us the charity without which eternal beatitude is impossible. Unrepented, it brings eternal death.
yeah because the Bible was around before the Church of Rome.
Right on, when you can’t deal with the arguments resort to name-calling. This is the stuff of shallow Catholic theology and gives Catholicism a bad name similar to those Catholics who attacked Pope Benedict XVI for establishing the Anglican Ordinariate.
The forgiveness for adultery is received in the Sacrament of Confession and it is only valid if one firmly resolves to live no more in a state a adultery. What you, Francis, Marx and Kaper are proposing is pure heresy.
"Living Waters"? Absolute utter nonsense!
How about the fires of Hell. Ever heard of that?
Satisfy my curiosity, are you sinkspur? Regardless you still write like a liberal.
May I suggest the New American Standard. Best literal translation of the Word available.
The indissolubility of marriage is not the only mandate. All of God’s commandments are mandates, not options. For sure, the re-married Catholic breaks the mandate but this does not end there. This is why we have annulments that go far back and recognizes human frailty and repentance. The attacks on Pope Francis we have recently seen on FR have degenerated into ad hominem stuff. Christ did not turn away from the much-married Samaritan woman who at the time had a live-in lover. Communion is a one-o-one Divine Encounter not some meaningless ritual or a liberal label to be applied for branding the fallen.
You’ve got it all wrong. The ones denigrating the office of the Vicar of Christ, are Bergoglio, Marx, Cupich, Kasper and the likes of yourself.
Wow....the catholic intellect on display.
I would imagine from a catholic perspective you've committed a number of mortal sins.
You'd best be off to find a priest really, really quick.
Oh, and you've busted the rules of FR:
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