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To: NYer

The Church, the body of Christ, is made up of sinners, regardless of title or status, born after the flesh, imperfect vessels, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb...

Infallibility is an impossibility, due to our sin nature...

RCC history proves it...


3 posted on 10/11/2015 12:30:16 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Popman
Infallibility is an impossibility, due to our sin nature...

The article is not that long. You might want to read it instead of posting an opinion.

RCC history proves it...

It would be helpful if you could support your statement by posingt some examples based on the definition of infallibility in this article. Many thanks.

4 posted on 10/11/2015 12:37:27 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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Since you haven’t read the article, and are also ignorant of the subject matter, your rote anti-Catholic sloganeering—which happens to be completely off-topic—isn’t going to persuade anyone with any background knowledge.


6 posted on 10/11/2015 12:45:06 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: Popman

That’s the idea. The Church as Christ’s church on earth is infallible, thus in those issues of faith and morals it can’t change - even by a Pope. I sou;don’t crow about the faith that grew in the 16th century from the desire to divorce (Henry VIII) or marry (Luther, who instituted civil divorce), or become his own Pope (Calvin) or reject the sacrifice of the mass utterly, despite the first Christians insistence on it (Zwingli). I would say pray for the synod as the good Bishops holding up for the truth of the Gospel are in danger. As for the history of protestants, civil divorce is business as usual almost all of its 30,000 branches.


12 posted on 10/11/2015 12:51:20 PM PDT by Burkianfrombrklyn
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To: Popman
This response is beside the point, since the Church does not teach that any human person is infallible, and certainly not by nature.

Infallibility is a gift TO the Church, to protect it FROM the errors of popes. It is not that the Pope will always say the right thing, but that if the pope thinks or believes or says the WRONG thing, it will not be in such a way as to lead the whole church into error.

That is to say, erroneous papal opinions will not be permitted to become dogmas.

But it was a long article to read. So for everyone's convenience, here's a relevant and wacky cartoon featuring a Pope who croaks, for your edification: "How to Explain Papal Infallibility in Under Two Minutes" (YouTube)

Enjoy!

30 posted on 10/11/2015 2:25:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Mercy means giving people a challenge; not covering reality with gift wrap." - a Synod participant)
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To: Popman

“Infallibility is an impossibility, due to our sin nature...”

It’s GOD’S INFALLIBILITY, not man’s. I bet you believe scripture is infallible, right? Didn’t men write that down? “Oh, but it was God’s inspiration” you would say, right? Exactly! God protects the Church. It’s HIS INFALLIBILITY.


69 posted on 10/11/2015 4:42:19 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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