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Power in the (Catholic) Church? Women Have Always Had It
Aletelia ^ | October 10, 2015 | ELIZABETH SCALIA

Posted on 10/11/2015 12:00:18 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/11/2015 12:00:18 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 10/11/2015 12:00:41 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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There is a website named, “Women of the Bible”. It is very interesting reading,


3 posted on 10/11/2015 12:19:06 PM PDT by Parmy
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As humankind’s pacifying, nuturing, and anchoring force, women always have wielded incredible power. The forces of evil are doing their worst to deny and destroy that fact.


4 posted on 10/11/2015 12:22:28 PM PDT by twister881
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They helped start the Mayo Clinic. From Wikipedia:

On August 21, 1883, a tornado struck Rochester, causing at least 37 deaths in the area and over 200 injuries. One-third of the town was destroyed, but the Mayo family escaped serious harm. The relief efforts began immediately with a temporary hospital being established at the city dance hall, and the doctors Mayo (W.W. and Will) as well as other local doctors, were extensively involved in treating the injured who were brought there for help. Mother Alfred Moes and the Sisters of Saint Francis (a teaching order) were called in to act as nurses despite having been trained as teachers and with little if any medical experience.

After the crisis subsided, Mother Alfred Moes approached W.W. Mayo about establishing a hospital in Rochester, and Dr. Mayo agreed to work in the hospital, and soon other local doctors agreed to work in the hospital as well. On September 30, 1889, Saint Marys Hospital was opened by the Sisters. Dr. W.W. Mayo, 70 years old, was one of the consulting physicians at the hospital. His two sons began seeing patients and performing surgeries at the hospital when they returned from medical school in the 1880s.


5 posted on 10/11/2015 12:27:28 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. -- Pope St. Pius X /// Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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To: ealgeone

Ouch, harshing the mellow. I’m not RC and believe Jesus is the only Mediator & Advocate, but don’t take after the Catholics. Aim the vitriol at Mohammedans and other false prophets of evil & violence.


8 posted on 10/11/2015 12:38:53 PM PDT by twister881
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If roman catholicism continues to advance this false doctrine I'll continue to oppose it.

We know the ills of Islam. But they don't advance a false doctrine within the church as we see catholics doing with Mary.

9 posted on 10/11/2015 12:42:53 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: twister881

I’m seeing a lot of women’s service to the church, but none of their power within it. The disparity remains.


10 posted on 10/11/2015 12:43:40 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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To: ealgeone

I’ll just say you’re aiming your gun at the wrong group.


11 posted on 10/11/2015 12:45:17 PM PDT by twister881
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To: sparklite2

I refer to women’s human power, not their relative power within the RC Church. Those who are dissatisfied can go elsewhere, such as to The Episcopal Church, a non-Christian entity I left, but which may appeal to those who wish to be priestesses, even openly lesbian priestesses.


12 posted on 10/11/2015 12:51:11 PM PDT by twister881
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To: twister881

I’m referring to the subject of the thread,
women’s (lack of) power within the church.
And as you say, if one doesn’t like it, one
is free to leave. This is a different
response than outright denial of what is as
plain as the nose on one’s face.


13 posted on 10/11/2015 12:54:29 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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To: sparklite2

What specific powers should women have in the Church?


14 posted on 10/11/2015 1:06:19 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

How about inclusion in the hierarchy all the way up to the Pope? Why keep out of power sisters of the Queen of Heaven?
Unless the church is a patriarchy, of course.


15 posted on 10/11/2015 1:12:51 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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To: goodwithagun

Wel, catholics have given mary a whole bunch of powers not accorded to her in the Word.


16 posted on 10/11/2015 1:13:13 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NYer

The most powerful person in the Catholic Church, more powerful than any pope, is, and has always been:

Mary, the mother of Jesus. Jesus, being perfect, will always honor his mother and father.


17 posted on 10/11/2015 1:14:55 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: sparklite2

Don’t necessarily accept your premise that women don’t have power in the RC Church. The real power of any church is in its membership, male and female, with clergy being only a small part. Churches can’t exist or function without the time, talent, and yes, treasure of its members. My experience is that volunteerism magnifies a parish’s value 5-10 times its budget. And so much of that volunteering is done by women. The majesty of the Vatican and of a relatively limited number of archdioceses is not the truth or power of the RC Church. They’re in the small & mid-size parishes that are the norm.


18 posted on 10/11/2015 1:15:57 PM PDT by twister881
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Again, service to is being equated to power within.
They are just not the same. Sooner or later, the answer to all will rear its head and end the discussion. So I’ll play that card now and leave the thread.

Tradition!


19 posted on 10/11/2015 1:20:12 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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To: NYer

Oui, Madame, Scalia. A real woman knows how to love Christ, love men and build families while writing books, cleaning monasteries, fighting wars and traveling to the missions.

Today we are surrounded by fake woman who hate religion, hate men, and destroy families while preaching to 12th graders about s-e-x, protesting wars, and skimming funds from the missions.

St. Joan of Arc, ora pro nobis.


20 posted on 10/11/2015 1:20:22 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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