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Ad Jesum per Mariam – There are some, non-Catholics especially, who think that talking of Mary or focusing on her in any way takes away from Christ. It is as though they consider it a zero-sum game, in which our hearts cannot love both Mary and Jesus.

Yet now where in the NT do we have such an admonition to love Mary and Jesus equally. This would contradict the greatest commandment would it not?

4 posted on 10/08/2015 8:07:47 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

He never said equally.


5 posted on 10/08/2015 8:08:30 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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I watched a documentary called “Convinced.” It’s a series of witnesses by protestants and atheists who “crossed the Tiber” and became Catholic. The most difficult thing, especially for Protestants, was to understand the devotion Catholics have to Mary. There is a lot of misinformation out there. Archbishop Fulton Sheen said that there are thousands of people who hate what they think are the teachings of the Catholic Church but very very few (now maybe a lot with the Muslim invasion) who hate what are truly the teachings of the Church. I challenge you to read Hail Holy Queen by Scott Hahn which goes into the scriptural Mary.


28 posted on 10/08/2015 9:06:06 AM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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To: ealgeone; Salvation
Equally? An odd word, in this context. It's not like a measured or mathematical thing.

I could say I love God "more" because He is he Supreme Being, and I owe Him more: my existence, my salvation. because His is all-good and deserving of all my love.

But love is living and it always grows, always abounds more and more. It is not a zero-sum game, it is a participation in something infinite.

I could never love Mary as much as God loves her.

36 posted on 10/08/2015 9:29:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I am thankful for laughter, except when milk comes out of my nose.)
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To: ealgeone; Salvation

Perhaps you remember that the 1st Commandant was to love God with your whole heart et al.

and the 2nd one was to love your neighbor as yourself.

It is difficult to love someone who is so negative and their cup is either half empty or perhaps completely empty.

How can you have a whole heart to love God if you are so negative that you espouse a form of hatred toward the Mother of God - Mary?


39 posted on 10/08/2015 9:34:02 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ealgeone

“Yet now where in the NT do we have such an admonition to love Mary and Jesus equally.”

Yet now where in the article do we have such an admonition to love Mary and Jesus equally as you just claimed?

“This would contradict the greatest commandment would it not?”

What is contradicted is what you just claimed since no one said it.


72 posted on 10/08/2015 12:23:17 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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It’s the work of the Holy Spirit to lead us to Christ.

Jesus said that was one of the reasons that the Holy Spirit was given, to reveal Him to the world.

Jesus never mentioned Mary in that role.

That’s a man made fabrication.


144 posted on 10/08/2015 6:01:40 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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