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To: daniel1212; Coleus
There were no born agains or Protestants back then. So, the one and true church of Jesus...

Isn't it amazing how Jesus' one true church (Read CATHOLIC here) was so SCREWED up that John had to be told; by a messenger from GOD; to WRITE to seven of them in Asia, outlining what was WRONG with their teachings!


Houston: we have a problem!

376 posted on 10/11/2015 4:27:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Isn't it amazing how Jesus' one true church (Read CATHOLIC here) was so SCREWED up that John had to be told; by a messenger from GOD; to WRITE to seven of them in Asia, outlining what was WRONG with their teachings!

5 out of 7 at least, yet submission to the papacy (or even mention of it) is entirely absent, neither as censure for lack of it or commendation for it, despite the many commendations and condemnations. That hardly sounds like a Bible Rome wrote!

Of course, it is also entirely absent in any letters to the churches, despite the many issues, commendations and condemnations, problems and remedies. The closest there is to such is that of Paul's voluntary presentation of his ministry to the apostles in Jerusalem (not Rome. Paul does not even include Peter among the 35 souls he mentions in Rm., 16), but in which Peter is named after James, and is the only apostle publicly rebuked after Pentecost, by the same man of God whose ministry he affirmed, along with James and John. (Gal.2) E

ven regular pray for Peter in particular is not enjoined, nor is their any manifest preparations for a providing for a successor, nor any mention of one for the martyred James. (Acts 12:1,2)

None of which takes away from the street-level leadership of Peter among the brethren, though never manifestly ruling over them (James is the one who provides the Scripture-based conclusive judgment in Acts 15, confirmatory of what Peter briefly testified to and exhorted, and Paul preached).

But it is starkly contrary to the propaganda of the NT church looking to Peter as the first of a line of infallible heads reigning in Rome as their exalted supreme head.

Which is not of Scripture, and which propaganda even Cath scholarship provides testimony against .

Thanks God for His light.

391 posted on 10/11/2015 10:19:16 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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