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How the Rosary Led Me to Christ
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-07-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/08/2015 8:02:23 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson

Really? We have to include a URL for prayers? Seriously?


121 posted on 10/08/2015 4:43:47 PM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: chud

You’re welcome, but allegedly I was singled out by a Protestant moderator for not including the URL. I am so over this site.


122 posted on 10/08/2015 4:46:18 PM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: verga

Not on this thread perhaps but it’s been posted previously. And as noted catholic apologists admit it.


123 posted on 10/08/2015 4:46:46 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: verga

And another opinion from you.


124 posted on 10/08/2015 4:47:13 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: defconw

You presume the RM is Protestant. Some Catholics are thin skinned for sure.


125 posted on 10/08/2015 4:49:12 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; Pyro7480
The love of a created, sinful, being is better than the Creator's love?? I don't think so.

He didn't say better. He said "lead". One might win the Novel Prize in physics, but is a true ingrate who will not acknowledge and thank, say, the middle school teacher or crazy uncle doing the electromagnetic experiments in his garage for inspiring them to go to MIT and excel.

More to the point; we are instructed, by God, to honor our mothers and fathers. God is our Father. Jesus is one in being with the Father. Mary is the Mother of Jesus. Yeah, the Mother of God. If you do not honor her, then you are sinning against God.

I pray you get yourself right.

126 posted on 10/08/2015 4:50:56 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: Sirius Lee

That’s some contorted reasoning there to be sure.


127 posted on 10/08/2015 4:55:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

You’ll get over it.


128 posted on 10/08/2015 5:02:49 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: verga; EagleOne

“Better” certainly is an implication of all those terms and phrases. They imply, in contrast, “not as natural,” “not as safe,” and “not as accessible.”


129 posted on 10/08/2015 5:09:52 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: ealgeone

Pretty sure nobody is coming to your church to tell you must believe as we believe. Also, I am pretty sure nobody on the thread said that you must believe as we do.

But perhaps the Holy Spirit is leading you to threads about Our Lady in order to gladden your heart. May you be blessed.


130 posted on 10/08/2015 5:14:27 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: miss marmelstein

My dear mother left this earth in 2007. I miss her. Hard to say goodbye to your mother.


131 posted on 10/08/2015 5:15:56 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: defconw

Post 27 did not mention that it was a prayer.

It had to have an original source.

If they are your own words there is no problem.

If not, it needs a source designation.

There are posters here from more than one belief system so it is best to make it clear.


132 posted on 10/08/2015 5:19:28 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mom MD

King Solomons mother was a queen.


133 posted on 10/08/2015 5:26:12 PM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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To: ealgeone

there is support, it’s in the Gospel of Luke, “hail full of grace” an angel from heaven came down to a human woman.


134 posted on 10/08/2015 5:29:46 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: Salvation

After spending a great amount of time and effort considering the differences between Biblical Christianity and Catholicism, I’ve come to believe that the most fundamental one lies in the matter of justification. And if that’s the case, then the errors of Catholicism’s doctrines on Mary would arise from that.

There is no way for anyone, even in part, to be just before God. Being sorry for sin or attempting somehow to do good to correct or make up for the sin never can make things as if the sin never happened. Sinning is like scattering to the wind seeds for more sin. Any sin sets off a chain reaction of more sin. And no matter what someone does, someone has transgressed against God’s commands, done what He’s forbidden, and “done harm to our neighbors,” (as Paul wrote that “love does no harm to a neighbor, so love is the fulfillment of the law,” Romans 13:10) So no matter who one is, they have sinned and given life to more sin, even if they’ve confessed it, or done what they could to try to correct a situation or counteract the sin. The point of Christianity is that we human beings are “sin makers.” We cause disorder, destruction and death in God’s perfect paradise (meaning that even when given perfection by God, we, in our natural state, will destroy it with our sin, just as Adam and Eve did).

So the only proper attitude towards God when it comes to justification is humility, being mindful of our sins against Him always when considering the question of justification. We are completely dependent on His mercy. He doesn’t owe it to us. He could rightfully judge us and condemn us immediately. But He has chosen to be merciful, and that’s extremely costly to Him. Our “good works,” if sincere, are a sign of repentance, that we’ve stopped rebelling against God and are in agreement with Him. They don’t justify us, though. Only God’s mercy, which He showed in giving His own Son on the cross, can do that. And to accept it we have to acknowledge our spiritual poverty, that we are spiritually penniless.


135 posted on 10/08/2015 5:41:02 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Mercat

But not “queen of heaven” as RC call Mary


136 posted on 10/08/2015 5:41:26 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

As the mother of God what would she be queen of?


137 posted on 10/08/2015 5:44:08 PM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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To: ealgeone
From Catholic Answers.com
Hail Mary, Conceived Without Sin
By: Tim Staples

Romans 3:23 says, "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." First John 1:8 adds, "If any man says he has no sin he is a liar and the truth is not in him."

These texts could not be clearer for millions of Protestants: "How could anyone believe Mary was free from all sin in light of these Scripture passages? What’s more, Mary herself said, ‘My soul rejoices in God my savior’ in Luke 1:47. She clearly understood herself to be a sinner if she admits to needing a savior."

The Catholic Answer
Not a few Protestants are surprised to discover the Catholic Church actually agrees that Mary was "saved." Indeed, Mary needed a savior! However, Mary was "saved" from sin in a most sublime manner. She was given the grace to be "saved" completely from sin so that she never committed even the slightest transgression.
Protestants tend to emphasize God’s "salvation" almost exclusively to the forgiveness of sins actually committed.
However, Sacred Scripture indicates that salvation can also refer to man being protected from sinning before the fact:

Now to him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you without blemish before the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and for ever. (Jude 24-25)

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It's a belief of our Catholic Church. You are under NO obligation to believe it. But, you, for some reason, felt COMPELLED to write what you did. Thus, my answer.

By the way, Tim Staples was brought up as a Southern Baptist...and he converted. There is no one with more fervor than a convert.
The same is for Scott Hahn and Steve/Janet Ray.

*My Protestant friend and I went on a Steve Ray "In the Footsteps of God" tour four years ago. It was MOST moving and I was moved to tears MANY times. How good our Lord is for saving us with His suffering, death and resurrection! We are truly blessed to be God's children.

**We went all over the Holy Land on this tour and I got to STAND where Jesus stood at His Transfiguration. Many tears shed there as well.

***I got to place my already-blessed rosary ATOP THE TOMB/SEPULCHRE of Jesus. By the way, the Hill of Calvary was taken down by the Romans during the 4th century so, without that hill, Jesus' tomb is VERY close to that site on Calvary. It was just too much for me; I was broken-hearted at the thought of what our good Lord suffered!
I recommend a tour like this to ANY/ALL followers of Christ.
Yes, it's not cheap but it was...a true blessing from God to be able to see it.

My Protestant friend and I are going on another Steve Ray tour: In the Footsteps of St. Paul. We are both looking forward to that VERY much.

God bless you and yours.

138 posted on 10/08/2015 5:46:31 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: miss marmelstein
Thank you! I’m very lucky she is in a Catholic nursing home run by absolute saints. And yes, indeed, Our Lady is helping my whole family. Bless you.

So true about the Catholic nursing homes.
Priests and nuns were "given the call" by God to minister to the needy. They get no salary, take many vows and do it FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
That kind of care cannot be bought. God bless them.

139 posted on 10/08/2015 5:49:15 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Coleus
Yes, Gabriel said greetings, you who are favored with grace. The DR translation is based on the vulgate which is an incorrect one.

. How is Mary favored with His grace? She's been chosen to give birth to Christ.

140 posted on 10/08/2015 5:50:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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