Posted on 09/23/2015 2:54:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
As a visitor to the United States, Pope Francis faces a minor challenge: His English isnt so great. Over the course of the trip, hell give 18 speeches, and only four of them will be in English; hell mostly use his native language, Spanish, to give homilies and addresses.
But at Wednesdays mass in Washington, D.C., at which Francis will canonize Father Junipero Serra, hell add another linguistic twist. The main prayers of the service, along with the celebration of the Eucharistthe part of the service when people take communionwill be in Latin.
Latin! This is an exclamation-mark-worthy fact for a few reasons. Its very unusual, said Father John OMalley, the Georgetown University professor and author of What Happened at Vatican II. Its not unheard of, but it doesnt make much sense, if youre in an English parish, or a Spanish parish, to do it in Latin.
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...Thats why its so interesting that Francis has chosen to include Latin in his D.C. mass:... Hes the first pope in 50 years not to have participated in the Council, OMalley said. Thats good, because hes not fighting the battles of the Council.
The mass that will be celebrated in D.C. on Wednesday is not the pre-Vatican II mass. The service will include English, Spanish, and several other languages, according to a Vatican spokesperson, and the pope wont be following the Tridentine liturgy....
More likely than not, the decision to use Latin in the mass is a matter of comfort: The pope isnt very good at English and hell already be speaking a lot of Spanish, so the mass offers an opportunity to incorporate another language into this visit. But its a small reminder that no move the pope makes come without complicated historyand symbolismattached.
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Deo gratias,
Yes, because as we all know, both the Old Testament and the New Testament were written in Latin. It’s God’s language, right?
A radical priest could be up there calling everyone all KINDS of butthole ... and y'all'd respond; Thank You, Lord for Your Mercies
Tower of Babel.
I remember when we all listened to the Mass in Latin. Not very difficult because the Mass is not too difficult. At least, when I was first taught it as an eight year old.
It’s called the ROMAN Catholic Church for a reason.
I was watching the mass on Fox News, seeing all the unintelligible pageantry that the humble man raised by a carpenter would have abhorred.
And I thanked God that, in his good time, he gave us Martin Luther to straighten out this mess.
What language would you suggest it be in? Ebonics?
...or what happens when you don’t make it a caucus...
Uh, it’s all Greek to me....
It’s a bit ironic. I remember when the Church changed from Latin to English and the Catholics were up in arms because they wanted their Latin mass!
Yes.
Maybe he could try Hebrew.... or Arabic?
Push 2 for Spanish
Push 3 for English
Push 4 for whatever language the Mooselimbs speak.
Push 5 to be removed from this list.
Because it was gorgeous and we all understood the Latin phrases - is that so hard to understand?
By having it in one language - throughout the planet - made it the CATHOLIC Church. Getting rid of Latin made it the Tower of Babel.
You are apparently unfamiliar with the nature of liturgical worship.
BTW a radical priest is much more likely to engage in what you describe in English (or whatever his native vernacular tongue is.)
At least with Latin he is much more likely to stick to the liturgical texts as given.
Are you saying that Catholics believe that the Scriptures were written in Latin? If so, that's an embarrassing mistake on your part.
Or are you saying that God has a language instead of being above all languages? That's perhaps more embarrassing for you.
Or are you saying that liturgies must be performed in Biblical Hebrew or Koine Greek? That doesn't make much sense.
Essentially, you are somehow upset or threatened by someone worshipping in a language that is the common heritage of the entire Western world and the language which more Christians wrote or read than any other for more than a thousand years.
Is it because you know you lack the wherewithal to learn it?
Why did he wait 1500 years?
Latin is the language of the Roman Catholic Church. We have forgotten that in the last 40 years but the world will teach us about it, as Scott Fitzgerald might have said, with a whip.
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