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To: ealgeone

And I can go to my copy on the shelf to verify the accuracy of your quote. /SARC. I believe that the Christians will stick with the truth, that Peter did indeed found the Church in Rome. BTW you are aware that he is buried in the Catacombs in Rome the same he was crucified upside down.


190 posted on 09/19/2015 3:47:57 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
And I can go to my copy on the shelf to verify the accuracy of your quote. /SARC.

Or you can order a copy yourself.

Introducing the New Testament, Drane

I believe that the Christians will stick with the truth, that Peter did indeed found the Church in Rome.

Yet again the sources you cited do not affirm this. You would be more accurate if you said, "...catholics will stick with....".

BTW you are aware that he is buried in the Catacombs in Rome the same he was crucified upside down.

I am aware catholics claim he is buried in the catacombs on Rome. Though there is no conclusive proof either way as attested to by the catholic encyclopedia online...see the link below.

In the 1960s, some previously discarded debris from the excavations beneath St Peter's Basilica were re-examined, and the bones of a male person were identified. A forensic examination found them to be a male of about 61 years of age from the 1st century. This caused Pope Paul VI in 1968 to announce them most likely to be the relics of Apostle Peter.

That's a pretty big most likely by the pope.

Was Peter martyred for Christ? Yes he was.

Was he crucified upside down? Some say yes, some no. The Acts of Peter(Source: catholicencyclopediaonline)...a writing of dubious reliability (comments mine) give an account of this.

The article, Acts of Peter in Wikipedia, notes this is the first record of the tradition that Peter was crucified upside down.

But in reality, it doesn't matter where or how Peter was martyred.

What matters is that Christ was crucified for all of our sins and that He arose on the third day.

191 posted on 09/19/2015 4:19:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: verga
I believe that the Christians will stick with the truth, that Peter did indeed found the Church in Rome.

Ctholics saying so doesn't make it truth.


While the church in Rome was already flourishing when Paul wrote his Epistle to the Romans about AD 57, he greets some fifty people in Rome by name, but not Peter whom he knew. There is also no mention of Peter in Rome later during Paul's two-year stay there in Acts 28, about AD 60-62.


200 posted on 09/19/2015 7:38:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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