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To: vladimir998
Vlad, there is NO WAY I will EVER condone that "Christianity is true". Nor will any other educated Jew. No educated Jew believes that J.C. was anything but a common human being. Nothing special at all. Certainly not a deity. THAT position has been, and will ever be, held exclusively by Hashem as far as Jews are concerned.

You deny here that you would not "dictate" anyone's religion, yet you earlier posted that you would force everyone to accept your religion. So, either you are a liar or you are mentally not quite all there.

Christians have been murdering Jews in the name of their Christian religion for centuries. So don't go telling anyone that Christians have not raped, murdered, maimed, burned, or otherwise tried to force Jews to convert. That's a blatant LIE. But blatant lies don't matter to human parrots like you. GIGO is your true creed. You don't even process the brainwashing you absorbed, you just go and spew it at others as though it were true.

Where do you get that "modern Judaism is not necessarily all that closely related to ancient Judaism"? You obviously lack any serious religious training except for plain old brainwashing to be able to accurately make a wild statement like that. You are just making it up as you go along. Your opinion is worth nothing as a factual basis for any rational argument.

YOU, puny little you, are the farthest thing from a qualified arbiter of the quality of anyone's religion. All you are fit to do is point your tiny little finger at others and try to dictate your brainwashing to them. Kudos to those who also guffaw at your rantings. Take your twisted egocentricity and go stuff it somewhere.

69 posted on 09/06/2015 7:20:16 PM PDT by EinNYC
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“Vlad, there is NO WAY I will EVER condone that “Christianity is true”.”

Truth is not affected by your opinion. It just is what it is.

“Nor will any other educated Jew.”

Except for those who do. And some do. Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Zolli#Later_years_and_death

And there are others: http://www.amazon.com/The-Ingrafting-Conversion-Stories-Hebrew-Catholics/dp/0932506550

So apparently you don’t know as much as you might believe you do.

“No educated Jew believes that J.C. was anything but a common human being.”

Except for those who do. Again.

“Nothing special at all. Certainly not a deity.”

Not “a” deity. God.

“THAT position has been, and will ever be, held exclusively by Hashem as far as Jews are concerned.”

And yet every day there are Jews embracing Christ AS GOD.

“You deny here that you would not “dictate” anyone’s religion,”

No. I deny that I WOULD dictate. I would never deny that I would not dictate precisely because I would never dictate.

“yet you earlier posted that you would force everyone to accept your religion.”

No. I never, EVER, anywhere at any time EVER said I would force ANYONE, ANYWHERE, EVER to accept ANY religion let alone mine. Apparently your understanding of English is shallow. Perhaps that explains why you apparently do not realize adding “not” to a sentence changes the sense of the sentence.

“So, either you are a liar or you are mentally not quite all there.”

No, you are simply wrong. Again, I NEVER, EVER, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME, EVER said I would force people to accept ANY religion. What I said was clear enough: “I would rather have them become Christians.” See the word “rather”? That means I wish they would become Christians. No force involved.

“Christians have been murdering Jews in the name of their Christian religion for centuries.”

Well, people do bad things - and Jews are no exception. Jews persecuted Christians. And?

“So don’t go telling anyone that Christians have not raped, murdered, maimed, burned, or otherwise tried to force Jews to convert. That’s a blatant LIE.”

Man, you need to pull yourself together. First of all, I don’t deny for a second that some Christians have treated some Jews horribly - just like I don’t deny that some Jews have treated some Christians horribly in history. None of that - and I mean NONE OF THAT - has anything to do with anything I said or believe.

“But blatant lies don’t matter to human parrots like you.”

You are the only one spreading any here. I never said anything that you’re accusing of saying. I said nothing about force, for instance. I also never denied bad actions toward Jews. Yet you invent those things as if I did them.

“GIGO is your true creed. You don’t even process the brainwashing you absorbed, you just go and spew it at others as though it were true.”

And there we have it: the man who has repeatedly attacked me with name calling and insults does not see the irony about talking about historical mistreatment of one people by another. Again, hypocrisy.

“Where do you get that “modern Judaism is not necessarily all that closely related to ancient Judaism”?”

Simple. I get it from you? You know how? You said Jesus had no place in your religion but you claim to be a Jew and hinted that yours is an ancient religion. Yet, if that were so, then Jesus - who was accepted as a Jew by His enemies - could not be denied a place in your religion. Thus, Jesus, who lived in ancient times, and spoke Hebrew and Aramaic from His youth, who worshiped in the Temple (which you have never done and never will do) clearly has more affinity to that ancient Judaism than you do. Case closed.

“You obviously lack any serious religious training except for plain old brainwashing to be able to accurately make a wild statement like that.”

No, actually my religious training is probably far more extensive than yours and certainly I can make a case for being better acquainted with history than you can since I have a PhD in history which you probably do not have.

“You are just making it up as you go along.”

Nope. I have been right all along and everything I said is absolutely true. It is you who keeps making things up. I never once mentioned forcing anyone to do anything, for instance. Not once. You have resorted to name calling and ridiculous and laughable insults - probably because you can’t make an actual argument.

“Your opinion is worth nothing as a factual basis for any rational argument.”

Again, the hypocrisy is amazing.

“YOU, puny little you, are the farthest thing from a qualified arbiter of the quality of anyone’s religion.”

So we’re back to the insults, huh? Again, you can’t make an actual argument. Also, it isn’t about “quality of anyone’s religion” in a subjective fashion. It’s about ABSOLUTE truth. And the TRUTH is Jesus Christ. John 14:6.

“All you are fit to do is point your tiny little finger at others and try to dictate your brainwashing to them.”

Except I’m not dictating anything - as I already told you in a previous post. The fact that you keep saying it even though I’m clearly not doing it is telling.

“Kudos to those who also guffaw at your rantings.”

Again, the hypocrisy. Only your posts can be rantings: filled with insults, absolute untruths, distortions and utter nonsense that doesn’t even have anything to do with my original comment.

“Take your twisted egocentricity and go stuff it somewhere.”

The egocentric is the one who has to resort to constantly insulting someone and saying things that are untrue about someone else - and that isn’t me.

I hope you one day you come to a deep and abiding faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.


71 posted on 09/06/2015 8:07:45 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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