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Sproul JR just like the rest of us will one day answer to GOD. The defrocking if it can be called that was mainly over church doctrine not blaspheme that and an IRS issue between a previous church and new one. if I read right. Other than that it looked like typical found in many churches infighting.

There are lots of allegations from former admirers/supports that something has been amiss since 2006 or so. When you have religious corporations with millions of dollars distributed in salary and benefits to one familiy (including in-laws), it is, at best, a distraction and at worst, corruption and nepotism.

I've been an admirer of Dr. RC Sproul for years. God has obviously gifted and equipped the man, and he's been faithful to "preach the Word in season and out of season." However given the way that he's responded to the defrocking of his son, RC Sproul Jr, I've grown increasingly disillusioned with Dr. Sproul and must now question the man's wisdom (I'd much rather question his common sense than his integrity).

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It would seem that Dr. Sproul's priorities for his ministry have been seriously compromised by his willingness to use Ligonier as a form of job security for family members. Salaries and "perks" for family members at Ligonier are lavish and multiple times above and beyond what people of such meager job skills and work ethics could hope to secure outside of Ligonier. Ligonier's credibility has suffered as a result, but it hasn't caused Dr. Sproul to change course.

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Take for example Ministry Watch. They gave you a "B" transparency rating. Even less impressive they gave you only two stars (out of 5) for efficiency. You come in 308 out of 447 rated organizations. Not impressive. What that means in part, Tim, is that you spend practically everything that comes in. You also squander huge sums on fund raising ($1,638,128) more than twice the percentage (14% of your total income) than the average Christian ministry spends on fund raising. Adding to you dismal efficiency rating you spend significantly more on administrative costs (salaries, etc.) as a percentage of your overall budget than the majority of other Christian ministries. That's not to say that you're at all generous in salaries to non-family members though. We all know that's not true. But you are quite generous with family members.

Tim, I'd made some reference to the Ligonier family "perks." So let's talk about just one example. Isn't it true that you live in the Ligonier "mansion" bought and paid for by Ligonier's donors? Do Ligonier donors understand that the monies they've contributed help to keep you bedded in such lavish digs? Weren't you the one who made the decision to take donor monies and go and buy a mansion with it that you get to live in? Kind of reminiscent of the Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker scandal, don't you think? It's just on a smaller scale. Face it Tim, when your former employees say, "Tim Dick spends money like a drunken sailor" they've got good cause for their concerns.

Tim please don't insult our intelligence by trying to convince us that you'd be capable of finding a job anywhere in the world that would be willing to pay you anywhere near the six-figures that Ligonier pays you. There's only one reason that you make that kind of dough and live in a mansion -- family connections. Without that you'd be living in an Arkansas double-wide.

Oh, and Tim, when are you planning on releasing the Ligonier 2005 Annual Report? You're pretty far behind schedule on that, aren't you? One of your former employees emailed me and said that you'd gone through three CPA's in a matter of a few months. That's a real bad sign Tim.

Frank the folks at Ligonier just don't seem to get it. They seem oblivious to how offensive this is to Reformed Christians. RC Jr is defrocked and the CREC's sham Report doesn't change anything. The CREC hasn't taken RC Jr through any kind of formal process of restoration and reordination. He's still defrocked. It's a big black mark on his record that with some time and a whole lot of public repenting he might be able to see expunged, but where's the evidence that he's ever repented?

Just like the CREC daddy Sproul wants to pretend like nothing's happened at all. Worse yet daddy Sproul went on the record and said that all the charges against his son were fraudulent. Doesn't daddy Sproul now owe the RPCGA a public apology?

Now I'm wondering if daddy Sproul is even calling the shots anymore. Maybe Tim Dick as CEO is the decision maker on RC Jr speaking at the Ligonier conference? But that doesn't seem real likely since it was Tim Dick who fired RC Jr as Editor of Table Talk. They're probably not on real good terms. So it's even more likely that RC Jr's mama Vesta is calling the shots. Vesta is a member of the Board Of Directors. All that nepotism is just bound to cause a lot of foolish compromising.

Regardless of who's making the decisions the whole thing just stinks and it makes me very sad. Dr. Sproul should know better. Dr. Sproul DOES know better.

96 posted on 09/02/2015 8:24:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))

I thought this looked familiar - that is a site which I would give ZERO credibility. That is not to give Ligonier a complete pass because there are some issues but this author is highly unlikely to recognize them. This author has a tremendous ability to make mountains out of molehills.