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To: Elsie
Mary is asleep in her tomb; wherever that may be. She does NOT hear you; nor speak FOR you. If you have any evidence to dispute these facts; please present it to the jury.

The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ has the sole authority to interpret the Bible and the ONLY infallible teaching authority ever....They have determined, and teach, that Mary was assumed into Heaven....I'll buy that.

997 posted on 08/25/2015 10:42:45 AM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: terycarl
The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ has the sole authority to interpret the Bible and the ONLY infallible teaching authority ever....They have determined, and teach, that Mary was assumed into Heaven....I'll buy that.

The Bereans, Andrew, Peter, Paul and others would disagree with you.

TC, the positions outlined by the rcc regarding the assumption, immaculate conception, etc, are without Scriptural support. Additionally, the ECFs are not in "unanimous consent" on these topics either.

You sure you want to stick with the rcc's position on these issues?

1,004 posted on 08/25/2015 10:48:48 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: terycarl; teppe; WilliamRobert; Normandy; StormPrepper
The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ has the sole authority to interpret the Bible and the ONLY infallible teaching authority ever....

Now you KNOW you've upset our FR Mormons with this bold and exclusive statement!!




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

1,014 posted on 08/25/2015 11:12:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; teppe; WilliamRobert; Normandy; StormPrepper
The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ has the sole authority to interpret the Bible and the ONLY infallible teaching authority ever....

HMMMmmm...

I do not see the word POPE or CATHOLIC in this verse.

I must have overlooked it somewhere else.


1 Peter 4:11
If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God.

1,015 posted on 08/25/2015 11:14:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; teppe; WilliamRobert; Normandy; StormPrepper
The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ has the sole authority to interpret the Bible and the ONLY infallible teaching authority ever....

"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours." — Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema. — Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1

1,016 posted on 08/25/2015 11:15:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; Elsie
The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ has the sole authority to interpret the Bible and the ONLY infallible teaching authority ever....They have determined, and teach, that Mary was assumed into Heaven....I'll buy that.

You owe me a new laptop. That made me spew my drink!

Sheesh.

That purchase won't get you very much.

Hoss

1,023 posted on 08/25/2015 11:23:17 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: terycarl
"The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ'

You seem quite fond of repeating that phrase. I'm wondering who taught you that LIE? Jesus did not establish and organization, He started building HIS ekklesia of spiritual new borns, who were at the beginning ALL JEWS, not catholics.

Men who sought and enjoyed power started the organization and different religion known as catholiciism today. That religion is hallmarked by pagan idol worship, eating the god of that religion, raising dead people to positions of mediators, and a host of other habits, all asserted to be essential to obtain eternal life. Of course it is ONLY God Who can place His eternal life in the born from above, who are born by HIS Grace not their striving and pride-filled works of specious righteousness.

So, where did you obtain this LIE that Jesus established an organization? From the catholic catechisms? From roman catholic priests? A pope? ... If you say from God you learned this LIE, then the truth is not in you because Jesus is building even today His ekklesia of believers in His Saving Grace, not their filthy rags works.

1,043 posted on 08/25/2015 12:51:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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