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your ride?Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Now stay alert for a second or two while I show you something about your reasoning ...
You have (rightly) taken something from a later time frame and applied it to an earlier time frame (Grace to Mary is sourced from a later event in her son's lifetime). God has ALL of Time open before Him at all times.
Now apply that same reasoning to what Elizabeth said when she spoke of 'the Mother of her Lord'. The Lordship could just as easily be understood as sourced from an event which had not yet occurred in Elizabeth's timeline but which is absolutely going to happen because it is God's plan of Grace!
The Word pre-existed even the worlds of the Universe. That Word came into a human person named Jesus of Nazareth, as ALWAYS the plan of God. You have zero evidence to support that Presence was present during the gestation of the body of Jesus, but you have assumed it in a way specious to the Plan of God since the Word of God says 'You are my Son, This day have I begotten thee'. The Mormons take that phrase to me God had intimate relations with Mary, to conceive Jesus in her womb. A blasphemous assertion we would both agree.
So, apply the TRUTH that a thing already is if God plans it, even if it has not yet occurred on the Earth's timeline ... 'he rejoiced to see My day' should be a big clue for us!
The reason I conjecture you will reject this offering to you is because it removes one of the duplicitous positions of catholiciism which allows raising Mary to a status The Word does not show us.
I sense avoidance, and diversionary tactic. Anything but full and honest examination of Marionism, it's origins and sources, and the theological implications of that same.
We all know that's what has been going on from the very beginning of this thread, and was included within the underlying motivation for it having been posted here on FR. As if we really needed it HERE on this forum.
Why continue to deny what is so utterly, painfully obvious?
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your ride?So a non-Catholic is telling a Catholic to engage in Necromancy? That seems terribly hypocritical.
If the Holy Spirit tells us that we have the same grace, I’m not going to argue.
He wrote 1 Corinthians under the inspiration from the Holy Spirit.
If the Holy Spirit tells us that the Bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Jesus who am I to argue.
1 Corinthians 11:26-29: For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes.Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord.But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup.For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.
I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. 30For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep. 31But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged. 32But when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord so that we will not be condemned along with the world.
You are wrong. You were provided scriptural evidence in context.
If that were the case, is the Word then considered milk and does it turn to milk when we read it?
Once again; you try to put words into my mouth.
WHY?
Are you telling me that ROME has decided; all on it's own; NOT to follow Jewish law?
You're dating yourself Buffalo Bob...
So she WAS a SINNER before she recieived grace; RIGHT?
HE created Satan.
Like Mary?
Do not allow anti-Protestantism to be a stumbling block.
The Catholic church, which is the ONLY organization on Earth originated by Christ has the sole authority to interpret the Bible and the ONLY infallible teaching authority ever....They have determined, and teach, that Mary was assumed into Heaven....I'll buy that.
Oh...
...there are LOTS of things going on that I don’t know about!
...there are LOTS of things going on that I don't know about!
Why Millions of Muslims are Seeing Apparitions of the Mother Mary...
Because they've already bought into one lie and another one won't ping their radar?
Show your work
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