Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Before that, let's establish some framework. Which of the Protestant derived faith groups do you most assemble with ?
I would go to Confession and receive the Sacrament of Penance.
Thanks. I have a lot of time at shipping and receiving locations, when waiting for an assigned load pickup or delivery. Or at truckstops, when I can study. I keep it simple on the road: no tv (not at home either), no internet, no smart phone. Just do my job, or rest, or study.
This time of year I work more local, trucking on construction jobs. Home nearly every night, but usually so late, it’s eat, shower, off to bed.
What people need to realize, is that the ‘spirits’ of scribes and Pharisees didn’t get left behind when the Lord began his church. They moved in, wanting their positions of authority there. Even being the assumed ‘preservers’ of the scriptures. The result is unspiritual teachings (but accepted by the people, since ‘those guys as so smart’), which the Lord, and the apostles, warned of. Paul warning of it as a present danger in his day.
Well, with that bold, defiant and prideful statement, I don't think you belong to either.
Matthew 16:18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Good luck!
**Before that, let’s establish some framework.**
Are you wanting to discredit the messenger, in a ‘guilty by association’ style basis? Are my questions to you that hard to answer? If I am so wrong, regardless of association, you should be able to answer my questions.......without using an organizational ‘framework’, but just by rightly dividing the scriptures.
Length of history, as an organizational ‘framework’, is not a sure basis for right and wrong. Stick with the Word. That’s the standard.
Respectfully,
Z
(which reminds me, I need to get some zzzzzz shortly)
Ah, the faithful Cathoolic, working their way to eternal life ... they think.
Jesus has a double claim of ownership on me.
One in that He created me.
The other that He paid the price to ransom me from being sold into sin.
I accepted His offer of eternal life so now I belong to Him.
It’s not a prideful or defiant statement to state the facts, and yes, I do state it boldly and plainly because it’s true and I am not ashamed of what I believe or more accurately WHO I believe.
Could you show us from Scripture where Jesus required attendance at a Catholic mass every Sunday without fail and taught that it was a mortal sin to not do so?
For freedom Christ has set us free. We are not under the bondage of religious observances to try to keep God pleased with us or to try to appease Him.
Jesus didn’t save me just to demand I go to church every Sunday.
He saved me because He loves me and because of that, out of gratitude for what He’s done and what He’s given to me, I live for Him every moment of the day. Not just on Sunday’s.
One in that He created me.
Suite yourself. Just keep in mind that He also created Lucifer and Hitler and mosquitos.
Your church's requirements for religious obligations apply only to those who choose to put themselves under its authority.
They do not apply to all men because your church does not have any authority or say in my spiritual life.
http://biblehub.com/text/romans/9-33.htm
Romans 9:30-33 What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, as it is written,Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock (petra) of offense; and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.
http://biblehub.com/text/1_peter/2-8.htm
1 Peter 2:1-8 So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good.
As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it stands in Scripture: Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.
So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,
The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,
and
A stone of stumbling, and a rock (petra) of offense.
They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.
All occurrences of *petra* in the Greek.
http://biblehub.com/greek/strongs_4073.htm
Jesus it the petra on which His body is built. HE'S the head of the church I belong to. You all can follow men if you want. I'll follow Jesus.
Who do you think created you?
Did you just *poof* into existence out of thin air?
Receiving the Eucharist is a live and death matter. If you had an understanding of the Bible you would run to the nearest Catholic Church and convert to the One, True, Apostolic church. There is no other. Started by Christ himself 2,000 years ago.
God created me.
“God made me to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him for ever in heaven.”
I intend to continue to serve Him, unlike Lucifer and some on this forum.
Those requirements are obligatory of all men desiring to go to Heaven. Or do the prots somehow get out of obeying the Third Commandment?
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/scrip/a6.html
“Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, ‘Take, eat; this is my body.’ And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, ‘Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.’” (Mt. 26:26-28)
Ah yes, who I believe. It seems like someone should write a song. Oh wait, Daniel W Whittle did. 😂 BTW MM, I did not go to church on Sunday, but I had a good reason. Do you think I committed the unpardonable sin? 😱🙀😩😄
Where is Catholicism mentioned in the third commandment?
And who decided that it meant going to Catholic mass under the threat of damnation?
You do realize that those who are in Christ have died to the Law and are not under obligation to keep it?
The Law was for the Jews. Those in Christ are free from having to obey it.
Typical c atholic, leaves out the ‘Do this IN REMEMBRANCE of Me’. And you think God is please with you when you practice to deceive? ... No wonder so many catholics vote solid democrat!
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