since you sidestepped my original question, try this, show me roman catholic churches that declined vatican II attendance, or fought about what’s on the agenda....show me roman catholic churches who disregard the pope on matters of faith and doctrine.....
and i nvr said you were becoming protestant, i said the same thing that protestants did, i.e., leaving the original church, they began to fragment, and argue amongst themselves, and refuse to join together for matters of faith and doctrine, the same thing orthodox churches are doing as this article notes.
“i nvr said you were becoming protestant, i said the same thing that protestants did, i.e., leaving the original church, they began to fragment, and argue amongst themselves, and refuse to join together for matters of faith and doctrine, the same thing orthodox churches are doing as this article notes.”
Oh, really? And after the Church of Rome went off on its own, leaving the other ancient Patriarchates of The Church in the Great Schism’ how many pieces did the Western Church break into? 30,000+, isn’t that the number of protestant ecclesial assembly children the Roman Church has?
We have a few autocephallous national churches and maybe 10 patriarchates, if you include the Oriental Orthodox and the Copts and we all believe the exact same thing doctrinally/dogamatically.
“since you sidestepped my original question...”
Actually I thought I answered it quite directly.
“show me roman catholic churches that declined vatican II attendance, or fought about what’s on the agenda....show me roman catholic churches who disregard the pope on matters of faith and doctrine”
Another straw man (or you are appallingly ignorant of your own ecclesiology). There are no autocephalous Catholic Churches. You are under the thumb of the Pope.
That said, there are the Old Catholic Churches, the PNCC, the Anglicans, and of course today there is the SSPX the various sedevecantist groups etc.
And while we are on the subject, there are no Orthodox bishops working diligently to subvert the doctrine and discipline of the Church at our forthcoming synod. Whereas you have a small army of bishops, some of whom are clearly heretics, doing exactly that in preparation for YOUR forthcoming synod. Some of these men have been invited, almost certainly for that very purpose by the Red Pope.