Posted on 08/13/2015 7:11:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
Edited on 08/13/2015 7:22:02 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Uh, simple solution for the glbt(gilberts) community. Why don’t some of you open a friggin’ bakery and cater to your fellow, uh, companions. Oh crap. That would require a certain amount of effort and why do that when you can sue somebody out of business. And when I visit and order a cake to celebrate my anniversary with my heterosexual wife, you can refuse and I’ll sue you. I mean fair is fair right?
Rights are not "provided" by the Constitution, they are recognized and acknowledge by it to be GOD GIVEN. Even if you don't believe in God, the point is that our rights derive from something above, or outside, the power and control of the would-be despots that infest our government.
Don't ever fall into the trap of thinking that the government grants us our rights. It does not.
Corporate case, corporate jurisdiction, corporate statutes, corporate policies, CORPORATE.
Only privileges, no rights.
If you incorporate, that’s what you’re voluntarily accepting. That’s how incorporation WORKS. That’s WHY incorporation can indemnify you from PERSONAL suit.
You can’t be indemnified from personal liability AND have personal rights. You can have the former, OR you can have the latter. They are mutually exclusive concepts.
I serve ALL customers. However, due to my religious convictions, I do not knowingly produce, modify or sell any product that celebrates, endorses or approves any activity that I believe to be sinful before God.
If you want recommendations of other establishments that might cater to your specific wishes that we cannot fulfill, we will supply you with contact numbers.
If you desire to "go public" and embarrass me, great. I will get tons of free publicity. During that time I WILL aggressively defend my beliefs and use every available media outlet to point out the true problem at play, which is the sin that you want me to commemorate, celebrate or endorse.
If you wish to FORCE me to do something against my religious convictions, go right ahead. I will spend every penny I have defending myself and countersuing you into bankruptcy. I will N E V E R bake a cake for you that depicts sinful acts before God. I will N E V E R endorse that sinful act. If you win the case, you will get no money and no cake.
So, how can we serve you?
Found at the place settings for all the guests.
Appears to me the "Court" is maintaining that the right to freedom of religion guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution (the highest law of the land) is preempted by some vague concern over discrimination. And discrimination has always been the purview of the individual, not government.
The "Court" is wrong and out of control.
Sounds like they cannot cite their muslim faith.
...make it so.
Sign should say Wedding Cakes start at $20,000...but feel free to dicker about the price"Hey...you baked that heterosexual couple a wedding cake for only $200...what gives?"
"I know, it's terrible, they really talked me down. They must've read 'The Art of the Deal'" ;)
Hat tip to GoneSalt.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3324324/posts?page=32#32
Here's a very reasonable scenario. You go to a Muslim owned catering service, one that's open to the public. You present them with your event's menu. Included are miniature bacon-wrapped hot dogs. The Muslim refuses your menu because of his religious beliefs. But since he's open to the public, what right does he have to control your menu?
Will the courts side with the Muslim, or with you? I'd bet it ain't with you.
I think you advertise and sell two types of cake.
The Gay cake would have one groom bent over, taking it up the butt.
The straight cake would be boring hetero, just a guy hugging a girl.
When the gay guy comes in for the cake, you tell him how awesome it is to have butt humpers on his cake for all his guests to admire. Then point at the boring hetero cake and laugh at it.
It's very much like the people from the so-called Westboro Baptist Church. They protest in an outrageous manner not to make a political excuse, but to provoke a reaction that will allow them to file a lawsuit.
Well, that’s a convenient way around the First Amendment - just don’t let people resort to it - brilliant....
Oh? The Supreme Court imposes their personal beliefs and legislates from the bench. But they’re hardly alone, judges everywhere do the same. It’s not their job.
What goes around comes around. You violate your oath and sow chaos you reap the whirlwind.
These judges are out of control.
So to assure the civil rights of one anothers must be violated at least according to that court.
I do understand the argument because if this one baker says no then whats another from saying no to a person or an Asian or a black from saying he won’t make a cake for a white person?
Before i get flamed just think for a moment. The baker could be a follower of Farrakhan and use the same religious exemption.
Still i can’t get comfortable with the notion that something as common as bakers should be held to the same standard as someone who offered a unique service. If the only store in the world or even within a reasonable distance from the claimant had a product that they and only they made then the ruling would be proper and not impinge on anothers right. When one can easily get the product at any number of locations then theres simply no merit to the argument.
I think ease of accessibility should be a consideration in these cases. If not its simply imposing by legal fiat the beliefs of one on another.
We will always have those who discriminate among us and no court will ever end that. If anything they harden the position of others.
Or this one
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We do not bake wedding cakes for the general public. If you'd like to be a personal friend, come in and have a cup of coffee with us. |
In fact,
Big Ruling in Case of Bakery That Refused to Decorate Bible-Shaped Cakes With Anti-Gay Messages (the ruling was that, of course, there was no discrimination)
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