Posted on 08/09/2015 11:06:27 AM PDT by Old Yeller
Typical non-Catholic, when facts with facts, dodge.
:Hahahahahaaaaaaa!
Can't even make a cogent post, yet claim to present "facts"! Catholics present their cult's OPINIONS, which are rarely baed in Scripture. They depend on "traditions of men", which any Christian knows is anathema to Christ's message.
Typical catholic cultist reply... try straw men and try to turn the conversation back to the cult's message.
Hebrews 3: 3 Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest. 2 He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God’s house. 3 Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself. 4 For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. 5 “Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future. 6 But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory. ...
Post 606 is beneath dignity.
I'm right on almost all things marriage....I have no idea as to what Jewish marriages require, Mary and Joseph were Jewish....Jesus, was, of course a Jew, as was Peter and the others....when Christ instituted His church, they, in effect became the first Christians, thus Catholics.When Christ was baptized, he didn't become more Jewish, He became a Catholic....all valid baptisms make you a Catholic.....maybe not a practicing one, but Catholic nevertheless.
I never said that only Catholic marriages count, all marriages count, legally....however not all count Sacramentaly. Even if the couple is married by a JofP their marriage is permanent and cannot be broken. People marry each other, the priest/minister/judge merely is an official witness. If any of these marriages end in divorce, a remarrying spouse then lives in a state of adultery.
Not at all. Likewise it a man had to have a vasectomy for medical reasons or was seriously injured in that area in war for example, their situations were not caused by an intentional act to prevent procreation....they were open to it, just not capable of it...
“I have no idea as to what Jewish marriages require”
If a person is Christian, Terycarl, they must know what a Jewish marriage requires. I beg of you to take the time to learn as much about a Jewish marriage as you possibly can before you leave this life.
Best wishes.
Mary and Joseph weren't Catholic. Their marriage was a Jewish one subject to whatever conditions that synagogue required.
Why, seriously why is that a requirement. We could just as easily say that every person claiming to be Christian should learn all they can about Catholicism. Of course if they did these threads would be pretty dull because instead of the anti-Catholic lies, well.... you know.
“all valid baptisms make you a Catholic”
John the Baptist. Were the people he baptized Catholics? People were baptized before Christ was walking the earth in the flesh.
(I’m off here soon, but will be back ‘round this weekend. During the weekend, I can search out for you some great info on baptism and Jewish weddings if you’re interested.)
Are you serious?
I’m stunned.
I wish you the best.
“When Christ was baptized, he didn’t become more Jewish, He became a Catholic....all valid baptisms make you a Catholic.....maybe not a practicing one, but Catholic nevertheless.”
The horror...the horror. FReepers this thread has shown starkly that we are indeed up against “spiritual wickedness in high places”.
After reading the last few posts, I could cry. My jaw cannot drop any further.
Find a lost sibling is not uncommon at all.....think of the number of illigitimate births in this country.....do they often marry, of course not, but you were seeking possible reasons as to why a marriage could be annulled. sheesh
Not true, you probably missed catechism class the day that they covered that....it is indeed a valid marriage.
No they don't, they recognize virtually all marriages which are between consenting adults and done according to law. Annulment is simply church sanctioned divorce and all this nonsense about *valid* marriages are nothing more than an excuse to get out of a marriage one no longer wants to be in, all for a fee, of course.
You are completely wrong on this and you certainly didn't learn that in catechism class in which you could have paid more attention.
BINGO....you have been paying attention.
I should have been more specific by saying for the life of either party....'till death do us part...sorry, I knew that.
Good grief...
Isn't it neat when we get to make up our own biblical interpretations....makes life so much easier...
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