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Is There A Purgatory?
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Posted on 08/09/2015 11:06:27 AM PDT by Old Yeller

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To: metmom
I go away for a day; leaving my cards on the table; and I return to find someone has played them for me!

(And quite well; too!!)

621 posted on 08/14/2015 8:31:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tired&retired
Many who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost.

What???!!!???


622 posted on 08/14/2015 8:33:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SouthernClaire

Hopefully a typo!


623 posted on 08/14/2015 8:33:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Why.... thank you.....


624 posted on 08/14/2015 8:42:41 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: verga
Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Because it is in the Bible, do you think that God approved of this fact of Solomon's life?

Abraham had a child through Hagar when married to Sarah.

Was this approved by God?

Who laughed?

Yeah ignoring the Bible qualifies as a dodge.

There is no mention of a Dodge in the Bible.

There are mentions of a Plymouth and a Honda though.

Here's a Biblical question for you:

Who were the shortest people mentioned in the Bible?

625 posted on 08/14/2015 8:46:38 AM PDT by Syncro (Checking for Biblical knowledge and humour... :>)
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To: MHGinTN
...specious assumptions made from an assumed loftier position of worthiness.

Well some are considered secong class Christians (huh?) referred to condescendingly as "separated brethren."

Jesus disagrees.

Pride has interesting results in a person's life.

626 posted on 08/14/2015 8:51:37 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: verga
Ah ha, the Straw Man (men?) reappeareth!

More tabloid trash linked above.

Priests are bucking Catholic Church leadership to support same-sex marriage in Ireland
Valid or invalid?
627 posted on 08/14/2015 9:10:38 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: Elsie; tired&retired

I would hope so, Elsie. But I wanted it clarified for two reasons:

1) For the poster personally, if it’s actually what he believes, because it goes against the Word and would be a dreadful burden to carry; and

2) For any believer not well-versed in the Holy Bible (admitting, by the way, that I have barely begun to scratch the surface and don’t believe that several lifetimes would suffice to plumb all the riches contained therein), but particularly and especially for new believers just starting their journey with Christ and through His Word.

I didn’t want to leave it just hanging out there without refutation in fear that some might walk away with a false belief causing great harm, heartache and discouragement. Seems to be enough of that already.

Blessings, Elsie.


628 posted on 08/14/2015 9:18:00 AM PDT by SouthernClaire
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To: terycarl; metmom
You are a Catholic...thus bound by Catholic teachings.....as are ALL Christians, in reality.

Don't forget the also totally un-Biblical rule that all Christians--in fact ALL people--MUST be in submission to the leader of Catholicism, your Pope.

Christians are in submission to out Saviour, Jesus Christ.

By the way posting that someone is a Catholic when they are not is considering mindreading.

That is, according to the RM, mindreading which is making it personal.

Only God can know a person's heart, not random members here at FR.

.....as are ALL Christians

I suggest you do a study in the NT on how one becomes a Christian.

It may surprise you.

Hint: it isn't a brand (mark) seared into a person at infant or adult "baptism." Quote marks around baptism as infant "baptism" isn't Biblical baptism.

629 posted on 08/14/2015 9:29:11 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: SouthernClaire
Would you mind elaborating on this part of your post, T&R?

It might be more interesting if you were to say what you think he is saying.

How do you interpret it?

630 posted on 08/14/2015 10:19:47 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: GBA

I didn’t understand it all, GBA. Hence, the request for elaboration.

What say you to comment?

I read (KJB) 1 Corinthians 15:18-19: “Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.”

Before that, however, verses 13-17: “But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen. And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching in vain, and your faith is also in vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.”


631 posted on 08/14/2015 10:43:46 AM PDT by SouthernClaire
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To: SouthernClaire; GBA

Inadvertently left off verse 19. My apologies.

15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

But most importantly:

15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.


632 posted on 08/14/2015 10:52:50 AM PDT by SouthernClaire
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To: SouthernClaire
What say you to comment?

I say: Thanks for clarifying that for me!

633 posted on 08/14/2015 11:32:56 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: GBA

It was my pleasure, GBA. Quoting His word, sharing His promises to those who put their faith in Him, and perhaps blessing a passerby in the process with the assurance He gives to those in Him is always a blessing!

So, thank you!


634 posted on 08/14/2015 12:27:16 PM PDT by SouthernClaire
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To: Syncro

I asked first. Nice try at dodging.


635 posted on 08/14/2015 1:18:34 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
(I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)

Do you EVER follow your own suggestions?

636 posted on 08/14/2015 2:36:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Do you EVER follow your own suggestions?

As often as you say something intelligent.

637 posted on 08/14/2015 2:52:40 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

Place Mark


638 posted on 08/14/2015 3:15:11 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

You never responded to post 606.


639 posted on 08/14/2015 3:30:16 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
You have seen the Christian Biblical view/facts on marriage.

Keep asking if you want.

Although your answer:

I asked first. Nice try at dodging.

Was to my question:

Priests are bucking Catholic Church leadership to support same-sex marriage in Ireland
Valid or invalid?
You asked that first?

Well, that's good!

Again, your posts contain a preponderance of strawman questions and statements.

I don't bite on bait.

640 posted on 08/14/2015 3:58:34 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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