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The Forgotten Church: 5 Reasons to Pray for the Souls in Purgatory
Catholic Exchange ^ | November 3, 2014 | SAM GUZMAN

Posted on 08/08/2015 2:06:13 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 08/08/2015 2:06:14 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/08/2015 2:06:34 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer

After the deaths of seven family members and numerous friends, I always pray for them.


3 posted on 08/08/2015 2:34:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
Prayer of St. Gertrude the Great:

Eternal Father, I offer Thee the most precious blood of thy Divine Son, Jesus, in union with the Masses said throughout the world today, for all the Holy Souls in Purgatory, for sinners everywhere, for sinners in the universal church, for those in my own home and in my family. Amen.

At one time this prayer was said to help to usher 1,000 souls out of Purgatory and into Heaven.

4 posted on 08/08/2015 3:24:36 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: NYer
Purgatory is not in the God's Word.
5 posted on 08/08/2015 3:58:42 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Praying for the dead was...till Luther decided he knew best and took it out. And there is biblical evidence for a third situation...other than heav n and hell...


6 posted on 08/08/2015 5:32:01 PM PDT by bike800
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To: NYer

Being Protestant, I’ve never really believed in Purgatory, but I understand the theory and going back to my college history of philosophy classes and literature classes, i.e. Reading Dante, I accept it. I have always thought it appropriate to pray for those when they pass, that Jesus will send His angels to take them to Heaven. And I’ve come to realize that some souls may need healing in route. Yes, that is not exactly Protestant belief either.

But in praying for those who have died and remembering them, I think is a good thing and I can agree with Mr. Guzman’s explanation. I hope Jesus is using my major professor for history, Fr. Shea, in providing angelic help and ministry to the budding historians at St. Joe (Indiana) where he taught and I attended.


7 posted on 08/08/2015 6:41:09 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer
As another non catholic has been allowed to post so will I.

. If a person dies without Christ there remains nothing else that can be done for that individual. The Word tells us it is appointed once for man to die then the judgment.

. We have no teaching in the NT indicating we can pray the dead out of purgatory, as there is no purgatory, nor that we are to pray for the dead.

8 posted on 08/08/2015 8:43:53 PM PDT by ealgeone
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I would love to hear what this third “situation” is you claim the Bible teaches.


9 posted on 08/08/2015 8:45:19 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NYer
Simply and eloquently put. My Mom had a huge devotion to the Holy Souls, that she got from my grandmother. When my Mom didn't want to do something, or something went wrong, my Nani would simply say, "per l'anima sante" "for the Holy Souls.

A thief can steal money, and even though he had to go to jail, may be forgiven, but the consequences of his action still exist. He needs to return what he stole. He needs to make up for the suffering he caused the owner and even the owner's family.

Same with purgatory. Through the Mercy of Jesus, and the grace of the sacrament, a true penitent receives forgiveness from God. But what we do has consequences beyond our actions. Sin has greater consequences, a ripple effect like a stone thrown in a pond. Until reparation for this is made, a soul facing its God, in all His Perfection would rather some for those consequences, than to face God in that state.

What an unspeakable joy there must be when a soul is released, purified, and seeing its God, never to be separated again!

10 posted on 08/08/2015 8:58:22 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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Amen!


11 posted on 08/08/2015 8:59:18 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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With all due respect, please read the caucus rules again. We are here to discuss Catholic teaching. Those who wish to do so, though they may not be Catholic are welcome when they contribute, without attempting to refute the belief, or derail the caucus.

You and I have had good discussions, E, in open forum. The comments made are not in line with caucus rules, however. Thank you, and God bless you both.

12 posted on 08/08/2015 9:11:44 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: NYer

In God Our Father’s time the Souls in Purgatory or Heaven visit you in a silent way in prayer for some.You have no idea why they are with you in prayer but you soon find out.


13 posted on 08/08/2015 9:24:24 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ealgeone
" As another non catholic has been allowed to post so will I. "

Per Moderator rules:

Religion Forum threads labeled “Caucus” Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not currently and actively a member of the caucus group. For instance, if it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not currently, actively Catholic, then do not post to the thread.

However, if the poster of the caucus invites you, I will not boot you from the thread.

The “caucus” article and posts must not compare beliefs or speak in behalf of a belief outside the caucus. There is little to no tolerance for non-members of a caucus coming onto the caucus thread to challenge whether or not it should be a caucus. Gross disruption usually follows.

If you question whether the article is appropriate for a caucus designation, send me a Freepmail. I'll get to it as soon as I can.


Non-Catholic posts such as those from Grey Friar or GBA, which are edifying and respectful; seeking to discuss the article from a Catholic viewpoint, which is the purpose of the caucus, are welcome. Because some are willing to engage in this sort of discussion, they are invited and welcome. Others may post in open forum, and spur interdenominational discussion.

God bless you, E!

14 posted on 08/08/2015 9:28:00 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: GreyFriar

I’ve never read Dante. For some reason, and I love Doré, I couldn’t get past the illustrations. I need to be more open-minded!


15 posted on 08/08/2015 9:33:37 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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Courtesy Ping!


16 posted on 08/08/2015 9:34:46 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: fatima

Their prayers for us are very powerful. Saints like Padre Pio had palpable experiences with souls in need of prayer and sacrifice.


17 posted on 08/08/2015 9:37:52 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Salvation

We can never take for granted that a soul is in Heaven, no matter how much we loved them on earth: nor can we take for granted that someone went to hell. God decides; for our part, we need to pray without judgement. If I get to Heaven, I hope there are a lot of people I may not have expected to see- God in His Mercy hears our prayers and uses them in His Infinite Wisdom, for what is best, praise His Name! To God for His Being, (((HUGS))) I so wish I could sometimes, just to say how much I love Him! Praise You, Lord!


18 posted on 08/08/2015 9:48:43 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Grateful2God

I am not talking about their prayers for us.If your feel the presence of a soul in purgatory or Heaven then you are meant to pray for their intentions here on Earth. As my spiritual director explained. I have had this happen 4 times in the last year and knew the reason ever time in 3 days.


19 posted on 08/08/2015 10:01:51 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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I'm sorry, I just mentioned that on my own: I often ask their intercession.
God bless you for what you've experienced; your prayers; and sharing that you've had these experiences! If you would ever feel out appropriate to tell of them, I would love to hear. You can FReepmail me. If it's too personal, I fully understand. I've been in prayer to find the spiritual director God wants for me. No answer yet...

God bless you!

20 posted on 08/08/2015 10:09:48 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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