Posted on 08/01/2015 7:21:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
It is getting frustrating to see yet another abominable Republican attack on womens reproductive rights without any acknowledgment that it is a concerted religious effort to dominate and control American women and nothing else. It is true that it is a uniquely American unwritten cardinal sin to utter one negative word about Christian extremists imposing their religious liberty on Americans, but for dogs sake the time to stand up for women and against theocratic assaults on their rights is long past. There are, allegedly, good Christians in the population and they certainly outnumber the fanatical evangelical control freaks, but except for one Catholic nun, they are silent cowards.
For the record, again, there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution regarding enforcing religious edicts for the sake of a religion, and yet Republicans are wasting more taxpayer time and money forcing religion down the throats of Americans with no pushback against theocracy. Republicans, the Koch brothers, and the evangelical movement claim that taking control of women, and their reproductive health, is a moral issue their god has given them unquestioned moral authority to enforce, but according to a Catholic Benedictine nun, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B., there is nothing moral about pro-life Republicans.
Sister Joan said, I do not believe that just because youre opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you dont? Because you dont want any money to go there. Thats not pro-life. Thats pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is.
Although the Sister is spot on that so-called pro-life Republicans are only pro-birth, she failed to elucidate what their real motivation is in opposing any form of birth control; abject male control and subjugation of women. Sister Chittister is right about one thing though, pro-life Republicans, the Koch brothers, and so-called pro-life Christians lack any sense of morality whatsoever, and worse, Americans are silent as they waste taxpayer time and money attempting to legislate religion according to a bastardized form of Christianity instead of doing the job they are paid for. As a reminder to Republicans, Congress is tasked with The Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the general Welfare of the United States. As an aside, when Founding Father George Washington was asked exactly whose general welfare taxes, duties, imposts, and excises were to provide for, he said the peoples welfare.
Republicans oppose, out of hand, the idea of laying and collecting taxes under any circumstance, but they are particularly opposed to providing for the general welfare of anyone except corporations, the filthy rich, and especially the extremely religious. It is not enough to force taxpayers to fund religion to the tune of over $85 billion annually, Republicans in Congress and state legislatures across the nation regularly use taxpayer money to decimate womens reproductive rights with exceptional urgency. This is particularly true since they took control of, first the House in 2011, and then the entire Congress in 2015. That is the price women have had to pay for Americans allowing the Koch brothers to fund anti-choice organizations as a means of buying Congress.
In fact, the latest threat from Republicans is to shut down the federal government unless they are allowed to use their religion to destroy Planned Parenthood in its entirety. Even though doing so will punish men who depend on the organization for all manner of cancer screenings, family planning, and contraception, but religion is the motivation and evangelical patriarchs and misogynists will accept men as collateral damage in their crusade to control and dominate women. In that sense they are no different than Islamic extremists in the dreaded ISIS and every bit as vicious.
It is stunning that while Republican lawmakers and anti-choice extremists continue introducing and passing misogynistic laws restricting womans reproductive rights, there is never any outrage that they are legislating religious edicts. Republicans in states and Congress work tirelessly to close womens health clinics as well as Planned Parenthood using taxpayer dollars, but there are no lawsuits challenging their blatant establishment of religion with taxpayer dollars for the sole purpose of controlling over half the population. However, the so-called pro-life godly and moral Republicans do spend inordinate amounts of taxpayer dollars to slash programs providing school lunches for children, cutting food assistance, and heath care aid to families with newborn babies.
America is allegedly the land of the free and home of the brave, but according to the silence of millions of men, and so-called good Christians, the idea of bravery to protect free American womens rights vanishes when the aggressors are religious, and predominately Republican men. The people of this country have a world of things to be ashamed of; gun proliferation, blatant racism, a quarter of the children going to bed hungry, a decrepit infrastructure, and an out-of-control and predatory law enforcement system. Add to that, a population of a liberal democracy that is so terrified of speaking out against Republicans violating the Constitution by establishing religious laws to control over half the population and it is beyond humiliating; it is an abomination. It is particularly shameful that while the majority of the population quivers and quakes in fear of speaking out against religious and immoral Republicans ramming evangelical religion down the populations throat, that a Catholic nun is the sole voice of courage against the immoral attack on American women.
And you live. 8<)
I am a Methodist pastor and retired US Army Chaplain. Your statement is close to accurate. I think it's about 50/50, and if we add the African churches, then it goes a little bit conservative. Methodist pastors are normally considered to be the elders, but we also have local pastors and lay speakers who are pastoring small churches. These tend to be more conservative and the counter-balance to the more liberal elders.
Our first one was uber-left but personable. He went on to run a local social services agency. The second was a female who always wrangled the sermon, no matter the stated topic, into a talk on homosexuality and AIDS. The third was somewhat conservative, a troubled country pastor. I never knew an obviously leftist Lutheran (ALC, LCA and Missouri Synod) while growing up.
Rural UMC churches tend to be more conservative and urban/suburban tend to be more liberal. Those aren’t hard and fast rules, but they’re close, and especially if an elder is NOT in the pulpit. Send someone to one of the denominational seminaries and they’ll either come out liberal or be pestered into leaving.
It is stunning that while Republican lawmakers and anti-choice extremists continue introducing and passing misogynistic laws restricting womans reproductive rights, there is never any outrage that they are legislating religious edicts.
Humans, unlike some animals do not kill and eat their babies
and in a way it is the same thing as it is about me survive and to hell with you.
I believe there are reasons for abortion as i do not have a closed mind but the far biggest reason for abortion is women screwing around with some who would make them vomit if they were not either drunk or in heat.
IIRC, to work in social work, counseling, voc. rehab. and several other fields, one must take an oath to progressive causes or some such.
Sartain, that’s how.
She smiles like she’s passing a kidney stone.
Sr. Joan, do you pay taxes? Does your Order pay taxes? Do any of the nuns or the member Orders of the LCWR pay taxes? Do you maybe pay property taxes? What about the property lent to you by the dioceses, is that taxed? What about that bus you use to tour the country promoting feminism, lesbianism and abortion? Paid for by you?
No to all of the above.
According to your rationale, “sister,” a person’s morality comes down to what they are willing to be taxed for. Not what they are willing to die for, or work for, or pay for, as most do in 10% tithing to the Church and more to charity.
But only whether or not they want government to decide who and what is worthy of monetary support. Yet you yourself and all your cohorts are not paying in one penny to this wonderful “system” you advocate.
2) This is the 1970s theme used to promote abortion in the first place, every child a wanted child. It is really the call of death.
3) How many women have sex outside of wedlock and get pregnant? Where is there responsibility?
4) Of those children brought to term, how many has the author helped raise and support? Or is she advocating death for the sake of convenience?
Catholics help the poor and needy, you know. Nuns take care of my mother very well. You need to get out more and see how Catholics help children.
The REAL “brave nuns” are those who have joined the much more “traditional” orders.
NEVER forget that these pro-abort people are baby murderers caught up in the largest wholesale slaughter in the history of creation.
Satan does have a counterfeit righteous side to his Kingdom. And just like scripture says, a divided Kingdom cannot stand.
What? me thinks he doth protest too much!
So many couples are waiting to adopt, it is so hard monetarily to do though. Last I heard it cost a minimum of $10,000 to hire a lawyer to adopt. That is why so many young couples foster. They do take the drug addicted, physically challenged, mentally marginalized babies to care for while their birth mother has an opportunity to clean up and be a mother. Most never do, but the fear of losing your foster child to a messed up mother for years is traumatic. Can't lawyers reduce their fees a little to help more children to be saved from the forceps?
Adoption is the way to go!
Even being a foster parent is good also. God Bless those who both adopt and do fostering as well.
Real Lefty Fake Lutherans can be found today in elca. Any in LCMS are thankfully being rooted out to the elca.
The ELCA didn’t exist back then. We went to ALC or LCA depending on closeness (we moved around a lot) and I attended a LCMS school for awhile.
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