Are you serious? The church of Rome is neither one, except in an organizational sense and with a paper unity, and it certainly has not existed in that sense since the first century, as both Scripture and historical research attest. Or do I need to post documentation?Looks like you will have to show documentation. Daniel1212.Your choice of words ("except") admits that the Church of Rome has historically existed since the First Century and admits it was apostolic.
Check out the mindreading and an example of someone twisting words to make it seem like they are being agreed with.
The "except" was in the context of denying what is erroneous posted all the time, that the "OTC" is ONE, no reference to being one for 2000 years, or 2012 years as we see posted all the time.
Funny how the word "deny" is seen as "except" for those that disagree.
Do you believe its candlestick was removed ?
The candlestick of Jesus' church made up of all believers of and born again followers of Jesus cannot be removed just as by proclaiming that Christians outside the Catholic belief system can't be saved without become part of the Catholic church and be subject to the pope.
It isn't any "Church" it is THE church.
And Catholicism was created over 200 years after Jesus walked the earth and those that say that Jesus was the first Catholic and that all the disciples and all the saved people were Catholics have NO Biblical proof of that.
If wishes were horses nuns would fly.
Bold emphasis for your sake Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses one to seven,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James