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To: Gamecock

Keep it simple. The Magisterium started with the 12 apostles. There is a direct uninterrupted lineage from them to today’s RC bishops. A heretic 500 yrs ago took off on his own and today there are 40,000 subspecies of his error, each following their self-directed religion. No, you don’t have the wherewithal on your own to “find your way”. You are incomplete and inadequate to go it alone. The Truth is in the RC Church. Grace required for salvation is from the Sacraments. Sacraments administered from RC priests who are ordained to act in the person of Christ.

I’ll add that it is the One True Church that will maintain the sanctity of marriage against “same sex unions” and artificial birth control. It is the One True Church that the world hates and is and will be the target of the persecution underway and gaining momentum now. I invite you to not be like the world and stop your persecution of the Church. Drop your resistance and seek your salvation in Truth.

For those interested in being catechized, please let me refer you to the One True Faith at ChurchMilitant(dot)com. You might be eternally grateful.


13 posted on 07/08/2015 7:05:06 AM PDT by wpjmd (lex credendi lex orandi lex vivendi)
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To: wpjmd

Bump.


16 posted on 07/08/2015 7:10:52 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: wpjmd

**You might be eternally grateful.**

But more than likely not.


26 posted on 07/08/2015 7:32:55 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: wpjmd; Gamecock
Keep it simple. The Magisterium started with the 12 apostles. There is a direct uninterrupted lineage from them to today’s RC bishops.

Guess that leaves Paul out of the mix??

He was called directly by Christ.

Can you with 100% certainty say that non-Catholic pastors are not called by Christ to preach??

44 posted on 07/08/2015 9:15:24 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: wpjmd
There is a direct uninterrupted lineage from them to today’s RC bishops.

So what? The apostles said "For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed" and "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you".

There is no unimpeachable source of Christian truth outside of the words of the apostles as they were originally gifted to the church militant. There is no unimpeachable source for the words of the apostles outside of the Bible.

The apostles never said they would appoint successors that would never teach wrong. 2 Timothy 2:2 and what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also."

Just because they were entrusted, does not mean that there is a promise that they will not err. Notice the requirement of many witnesses? You can't just make stuff up and say it's from the apostles.

1 Timothy 1:4 nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith.

47 posted on 07/08/2015 10:02:36 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: wpjmd

“There is a direct uninterrupted lineage from them to today’s RC bishops.” Um, no. The definition of an Apostle is found in the Peter council between the ascension and Pentecost, when the casting of lots fell upon Matthias. Not one of the claimed Bishops of RCC religion fits the definition Peter gave. Not one.


92 posted on 07/08/2015 8:40:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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