Answering 10 Catholic Complaints (Part One and Two)

Pillar of Truth Ministry ^ | March 3 & 4, 2015 | Jason Marianna

[Resettozero]

Oops. You were referring to something written by someone else and not by me.

My bad. Please forgive and thank you.

[BlackAdderess]

Do you think that every single Catholic is lost?

[Resettozero]

Of course not, but I know some who post on FR RF show none of the attributes of being Christlike yet are prompt to defend Catholicism of many stripes and flavors. These are secret Christians, I suppose.

The Lord has his remnant stashed away in unanticipated places, though. Name-brand religious labels can be deceiving in actual Christian quality.

[RnMomof7]

It’s time to stop picking each other apart and to start healing our differences so we can present a united front to the world.

This world is not my home.. and it is not yours either... the "world" does not care if we are "united"

What is important are the souls that will leave here and have hell as their "home"

[BlackAdderess]

I do think a wonderful thing would be for Catholics and Evangelicals to get together and mend fences. We each have blind spots and an everything on the table discussion would profit us both.

Protestants have a habit of succumbing to fads and getting into tempest-in-a-teacup type congregation splitting hissy fits. I’ve seen heretofore rational preachers go off the demon chasing deep end (Holy Supernatural, Batman!), I’ve seen young and impressionable lives greatly damaged by thoughtless and judgmental behavior from those in authority when perhaps a better leadership structure would have resulted in wiser and cooler heads prevailing.

I do think the Catholic teaching of papal infallibility is a problem and that the celibacy requirement has caused them deep and lasting harm. For one thing it has stopped some of the finest men God has put upon the earth from reproducing, for another it has attracted many of the badly wrong sort, for a third it has caused a shortage which makes rooting out the bad ones even more difficult.

Even on a one to one basis with a friend, just comparing notes in a spirit of fellowship is going to enrich both.

[terycarl]

I have a huge problem with papal infallibility. I would like to know the Biblical justification, and more to the point given some of the real stinkers some have been, could it be that a misinterpretation has taken place?

Not too hard to understand and it is an EXTREMELY restricted dogma......ONLY if the Pope declares so, and ONLY if he speaks on a matter of Faith or morals, and ONLY if he speaks Ex Cathedra is he Infallible. I know of only twice...the Assumption and the Immaculate Conception, that he has done so.

When the Pope speaks on many other things, he does speak as head of the catholic church, but he is as subject to error as anyone else...global warming is the latest...and it is strictly his human opinion....rest easy.

[terycarl]

Marriage has been redefined in this country ONLY because of Catholics and the Catholic Church!!!!!

Now, that is really funny.....PATHETIC

[terycarl]

2) You are right about Mary. A true saint. But not a perpetual virgin. She was married to Joseph and Jesus had brothers and sisters. This is mentioned in the Bible and I first learned in it a Bible study class taught by a CATHOLIC priest in a CATHOLIC church. 3) You are right about confession. We are taught in the Bible to confess our sins, but no requirement is there which says you must confess them to a priest. 4) An the concept of papal infallibility is a complete crock, a dogma developed in the late 19th century by a rather authoritarian Pope who didn’t want any of his other ideas, doctrines, or dogmas questioned. I could go on and on. I love my Church and respect its history and traditions. But like all other churches it is a man made institution and is far from perfect. It makes mistakes and commits sins just like everyone else.

#2...you are wrong #3...you are wrong #4...you are wrong. Pay attention to what the church teaches and find out why...it is VERY easy to understand it once someone who knows what he/she is talking about explains it to you

You misunderstood what the priest told you concerning Mary's virginity.

[terycarl]

I will continue to condemn the Roman Church for its unforgivable complicity in our cultural rot.

Don't...the Catholic church is world wide and is doing just fine...too many American Catholics are Democrats and deserve some chastisement, but not the church as an organization.

[terycarl]

The “dolts” are the Catholics who are required to submit “will and intellect” to the likes of Francis. Catholics are the “dolts” who are deluded into following some paedophile rather than thinking for themselves. Want to talk about “dolts”? Those who submit “will and intellect” to practising homosexuals who are part of what they call the magisterium would certainly qualify as “dolts”.

My, my, my, ....what a brilliant post...peadophile leaders??...wouldn't that describe FAR more protty clergy, and FAR more teachers, and FAR more scout leaders than Catholic clergy.....??? and by the way, homosexuality is not a sin....homosexual behavior is....of course you knew that, but why mention it when you're on a roll???

[MHGinTN]

“There is a direct uninterrupted lineage from them to today’s RC bishops.” Um, no. The definition of an Apostle is found in the Peter council between the ascension and Pentecost, when the casting of lots fell upon Matthias. Not one of the claimed Bishops of RCC religion fits the definition Peter gave. Not one.

[BlackAdderess]

Well, you didn’t give a Biblical justification for this belief in papal infallibility, you just said it’s only happened twice so far.

[Resettozero]

I do think the Catholic teaching of papal infallibility is a problem...

Does the RCC push this teaching currently? Not many RCs seem to believe it anymore anyway. RCC leadership seem to check their polling data and with focus groups before making adjustments in RC theology.

...and that the celibacy requirement has caused them deep and lasting harm.

Rather than RC priests burning with desire for boys and other flesh, it's best that they marry. Or at least be placed on potential sexual offenders lists. But homosexuality is accepted by the RCC in practice, contrary to some official denials, just as homosexuality is accepted by secular government in America as lawful...for now.

I do think a wonderful thing would be for Catholics and Evangelicals to get together and mend fences.

Plenty of Protestant groups have mended fences with the RCC and get more Roman Catholic every year.

Evangelicals with Catholics? That's like wishing oil would stay miscible with water.

[BlackAdderess]

Mandated celibacy among priests is not Biblical, suggested celibacy by Paul at a time of incredible levels of persecution (by a largely homosexual and bisexual elite, btw) should be viewed within the context of the situation. You will get no argument from many Catholics over the destructiveness of this policy by which pedophiles and homosexuals were encouraged to join the LEADERSHIP of the church. I mean, what could go wrong?!

I really do think I’m right on the pairing of Catholics and Evangelicals, they fill in each other’s weak spots. I’ve seen an entire Catholic school actually listen to a little evangelical Protestant on the subject of modesty and put into practice her suggestions. They are not the oldest because they are stupid.

[Resettozero]

Mandated celibacy among priests is not Biblical...

That's factual and I agree. In the New Covenant, neither is the office of one priest bringing Christ down bodily into a Mass/Eucharist for the edification of any individual or group of worshipers. Instead, ALL believers in Christ have been made priests, according to the written Word of God, the Holy Bible.

Lord Jesus Christ Who is in Heaven again and slated to appear here on Earth again when The Father gives the go-ahead, has been made THE Priest (Reconciler to Almighty God) for ALL Christians who are in fact believers and followers of Jesus Christ alone, our only Savior.

There is nothing left to be administered by any "priest" or "father" that has not been completed ("finished") by The Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, at Calvary and once for all time.

[Trapped Behind Enemy Lines]

You say I’m wrong on all of these points, but you don’t elaborate. I would be more than happy to discuss any one of these points in greater detail if you like. I get most of my information on these issues directly from the Bible. Where are you getting your information?

[Trapped Behind Enemy Lines]

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CynicalBear]

>>and by the way, homosexuality is not a sin....homosexual behavior is<<

Matthew 5:28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

I suppose you don't think that applies to homosexuals as well?

[terycarl]

Well, you didn’t give a Biblical justification for this belief in papal infallibility, you just said it’s only happened twice so far.

Whatsoever you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven, whatsoever you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven..

Christ wouldn't have given the power to bind in Heaven and then let an erroneous decision be made.