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What Would Jesus Say About Homosexual Sex?
Traditional Catholic Priest ^ | July 5, 2015

Posted on 07/06/2015 7:37:24 AM PDT by NYer

This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves.  This has led to so called’ christians’ condoning and accepting homosexual sex and ‘marriage’.  Luther is ‘turning in his grave’.  He said that ‘having sex without having children was the sin of sodomy too.’

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This slippery slide where christians accepting this perversion began with the condoning of divorce.  It was well brought out when CNN asked Donald Trump what he believed about homosexual ‘marriage’.  Trump responded by saying he is in favor of ‘traditional marriage’.  They then called him on having married 3 times.

So here it is.  King Henry the VIII made his own church, ‘The Church of England’ so that he could get around what Jesus said; ‘What God has united, let no man divide” and kill two of his wives and remarry four more times.   He modified his christianity to suite his sexual desires.  He then went on to steal Catholic property, killed thousands and caused years of persecution and starvation of Catholics in England and Ireland.

Then Margaret Sanger paid Episcopalian preachers to condone Eugenics and the use of birth control.

Then came the condoning of murdering the babies in the womb.  Many ‘christian’ churches have gone along with this evil and have called it good.

Now we have the same with homosexual sin.  More and more of the christian churches are supporting the sinful lifestyle of homosexuality and justifying it with perverted theology.

Homosexuality-society-5On July 1st 2015, in Salt Lake City, the Episcopal Church “voted overwhelmingly to approve two resolutions that effectively codify theological support for same-sex marriage. The first (A054) formally approves gender-neutral and same-sex marriage ceremonies, while the second (A036) changes the current marriage “canons” to allow clergy to officiate same-sex marriages using either a marriage rite from the Episcopal Book of Common Prayer or a “trial” liturgy.

..the resolution actually includes what amounts to a “conscience clause” for bishops and priests who disapprove of same-sex marriage to opt-out of performing unions, although they are required to accommodate couples in some way in every diocese.

“This is a definitive step for the Episcopal church,” Baker said. “To have this vote pass so soon after the Supreme Court decision…It was just breathtaking.”

“God has clearly been at work in the culture and in the church, changing the hearts and minds of Episcopalians,” he added.  ThinkProgress.com

This week the Presbyterian Church of American also voted to ‘embrace an inclusive definition of marriage‘.

‘The measure sought to replace a phrase in the church’s constitution that defined marriage as “a civil contract between a woman and a man” with a sentence reading “marriage involves a unique commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman, to love and support each other for the rest of their lives.”

A Presbyterian McNeil said; “We rejoice that all couples can now see those relationships solemnized before God and the Christian community in marriage, at the discretion of ministers and sessions,    there is still more work to be done to ensure that the church guarantees LGBT people equal rights — and theological standing — across the board.’

Carmen Fowler LeBorge, also a Presbyterian, disagreed with the change.  She said that “Any prophetic voice that the denomination may have once had to speak truth and call people to repentance is now lost. All she can do now is echo the voices of the world for she has abandoned the clarion call to bear faithful witness to the God who has clearly spoken on this matter.”

For the Presbyterian ministers there is also a conscience clause.  They do not have to ‘officiate same-sex unions, and pastors can individually decline to perform a marriage — just as they can with any straight couple.’  ThinkProgress.com

Homosexuality-society-ranking-02A large Evangelical Christian Church in San Francisco, (City Church), just sent out a letter where they will not longer require celibacy for homosexual members.  “Imagine feeling this from your family or religious community, ‘If you stay, you must accept celibacy with no hope that you too might one day enjoy the fullness of intellectual, spiritual, emotional, psychological and physical companionship. If you pursue a lifelong partnership, you are rejected.’ This is simply not working and people are being hurt. We must listen and respond.”   religiousnewsservice.com

A New York Mega Church pastor Lentz, when asked in an interview with CNN if he every talks about homosexuality.  “Yes, it’s a misquote because I do discuss it, just not the way people want me to, When it comes to homosexuality, I refuse to let another human being or a media moment dictate how we approach it. Jesus was in the thick of an era where homosexuality, just like it is today, was widely prevalent. And I’m still waiting for someone to show me the quote were Jesus addressed it on the record in front of people. You won’t find it because he never did.”  

I guess this minister never read Matthew 15:19, ‘For from the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies.’   Fornication means any sexual activity outside of marriage, (masterbation, premarital sex, homosexual sex).  

‘The couple shared that gay men and women were welcomed at Hillsong NYC, with Lentz stating, “We have a lot of gay men and women in our church and I pray we always do.”

Mrs. Lentz added, “It’s not our place to tell anyone how they should live, it’s – that’s their journey.”  christianpost.news

We are so blessed to be traditional Catholics and to believe in the complete Holy Bible.  We have read where God calls homosexual sex an abomination and who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.


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To: Grateful2God
There are other qualities: a good work ethic; sense of loyalty to the company; the need to be a productive member of society, rather than turning their nose up at tasks others deem too menial.

That brings to mind about fifty years ago after I got out of the Navy and had not yet found full time work. I'd show up at the Manpower office for a day's work, wherever they assigned me. I remember a young individual telling the interviewer "I don't wanna be no porter".

201 posted on 07/07/2015 12:46:37 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

With debit cards in use, there is an easy way to do some tracking. Check the stores that sell lottery tickets, cigarettes, beer, etc. with police- around the time when the money comes in and people are lined up outside the little stores where anyone can see. Better yet, program the cards so the cards cannot be used to buy these items. Check the salons with the hair and nails. See how the govt money is spent. Go back to paying the landlords out of the debit cards. Anybody caught with, or using drugs, has to reapply for benefits and do community service before they can be reinstated. Those of older age brackets, who have held jobs throughout their lives, without police records, and are older, handicapped, or vets get preference over those who are capable but have never worked. Why? Not race, color, creed or national origin, but those who are responsible and who will handle the money wisely and have proven themselves capable of doing so in the past. Just a suggestion, but a try at least to make some sense out of that situation.


202 posted on 07/07/2015 1:20:30 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: JimRed
First of all, may I extend my humble thanks for your Military service. God bless you and yours!

As for your post: Exactly! I washed dishes, painted signs, worked in a print shop, did the usual fast-food and retail gigs to help out at home. I usually worked two jobs at a time, as most places hired part timers so they didn't have to pay benefits.

Where has our work ethic gone?!? Nothing that is an honest living should be considered beneath someone. Ever watch Mike Rowe? He has am honest respect for people's work, whatever it happens to be! His shows are really interesting!

203 posted on 07/07/2015 1:41:20 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Elsie
...which involves at least one of the parties not having sufficient knowledge or maturity to know what was involved in marriage.

Which is 100% of the human race: past, present or FUTURE!!!

Sufficient knowledge is a reason so subjective that most anyone could claim it, but what it means is what RC judges define as "sufficient."

204 posted on 07/07/2015 4:55:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: metmom
What’s arrogant to the max is that they presume to be the ones who define what a valid marriage is and that if it’s not a Catholic marriage, it can be considered to never have been valid in the first place.

Which is not Biblical, as God never even made marriage valid exclusively to those in the faith, but counted pagan marriages as marriage, and required nothing more to validate it when they converted.

But Rome basically presumes she can make the word of God to be subject to her.

205 posted on 07/07/2015 4:58:33 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Grateful2God
The assumption that Americans who are older or handicapped are categorically less productive will automatically exclude people from work opportunities.

I 'assumed' nothing.

I merely mentioned LESS productive.

206 posted on 07/08/2015 5:23:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grateful2God
I just know that the America we live in now is nothing like the one my parents described when they'd talk about living during the Depression they grew up in.

It will be!

207 posted on 07/08/2015 5:26:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ransomed
If it was actually about taxes or money there would be a much higher % of gays actually getting married in the states where it has been accepted for 10+ years, in my opinion.

Just wait!

208 posted on 07/08/2015 5:27:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JimRed

There ya go!


209 posted on 07/08/2015 5:27:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grateful2God
Nothing that is an honest living should be considered beneath someone.

But it is.

So is 'acting white'.

210 posted on 07/08/2015 5:29:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I was referring to the assumption in general, not to your statement specifically, Elsie, and I'm really sorry if it came off that way. It is an assumption that pervades the job market; society values youth and appearance more than the intangible values that make a good employee. Transience seems to be the norm, rather than being in it for the long haul, as in my day. It's a jungle out there, and the older we get, the lower we are on the food chain...

I agree that some middle-aged folks sure can't move like kids- but do the kids have the ambition or the work ethic to do the moving? Is it their, or their families' bread and butter, or just a stepping stone to a "better" job? I think things like that make a good employee, too- not to mention the wisdom and life experience a few more years can bring to the table.

211 posted on 07/08/2015 8:43:43 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Grateful2God
and I'm really sorry if it came off that way.

No problem.

We think a LOT faster than we type, and we drop off a LOT of clues as to what we actually MEAN along the way.

212 posted on 07/08/2015 1:42:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
" No problem. "

Thank you!
The tough part is, I'm arthritic and have trouble sitting at a desk, and it's hard to type, so I use my phone which makes it hard to read sometimes, even the preview size font. Sometimes it takes forever to get the message out correctly! I've embarrassed myself more than once...😳

213 posted on 07/08/2015 8:03:04 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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214 posted on 07/09/2015 6:31:27 AM PDT by xone
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