Posted on 07/06/2015 7:37:24 AM PDT by NYer
This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves. This has led to so called’ christians’ condoning and accepting homosexual sex and ‘marriage’. Luther is ‘turning in his grave’. He said that ‘having sex without having children was the sin of sodomy too.’
This slippery slide where christians accepting this perversion began with the condoning of divorce. It was well brought out when CNN asked Donald Trump what he believed about homosexual ‘marriage’. Trump responded by saying he is in favor of ‘traditional marriage’. They then called him on having married 3 times.
So here it is. King Henry the VIII made his own church, ‘The Church of England’ so that he could get around what Jesus said; ‘What God has united, let no man divide” and kill two of his wives and remarry four more times. He modified his christianity to suite his sexual desires. He then went on to steal Catholic property, killed thousands and caused years of persecution and starvation of Catholics in England and Ireland.
Then Margaret Sanger paid Episcopalian preachers to condone Eugenics and the use of birth control.
Then came the condoning of murdering the babies in the womb. Many ‘christian’ churches have gone along with this evil and have called it good.
Now we have the same with homosexual sin. More and more of the christian churches are supporting the sinful lifestyle of homosexuality and justifying it with perverted theology.
On July 1st 2015, in Salt Lake City, the Episcopal Church “voted overwhelmingly to approve two resolutions that effectively codify theological support for same-sex marriage. The first (A054) formally approves gender-neutral and same-sex marriage ceremonies, while the second (A036) changes the current marriage “canons” to allow clergy to officiate same-sex marriages using either a marriage rite from the Episcopal Book of Common Prayer or a “trial” liturgy.
..the resolution actually includes what amounts to a “conscience clause” for bishops and priests who disapprove of same-sex marriage to opt-out of performing unions, although they are required to accommodate couples in some way in every diocese.
“This is a definitive step for the Episcopal church,” Baker said. “To have this vote pass so soon after the Supreme Court decision…It was just breathtaking.”
“God has clearly been at work in the culture and in the church, changing the hearts and minds of Episcopalians,” he added. ThinkProgress.com
This week the Presbyterian Church of American also voted to ‘embrace an inclusive definition of marriage‘.
‘The measure sought to replace a phrase in the church’s constitution that defined marriage as “a civil contract between a woman and a man” with a sentence reading “marriage involves a unique commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman, to love and support each other for the rest of their lives.”
A Presbyterian McNeil said; “We rejoice that all couples can now see those relationships solemnized before God and the Christian community in marriage, at the discretion of ministers and sessions, there is still more work to be done to ensure that the church guarantees LGBT people equal rights — and theological standing — across the board.’
Carmen Fowler LeBorge, also a Presbyterian, disagreed with the change. She said that “Any prophetic voice that the denomination may have once had to speak truth and call people to repentance is now lost. All she can do now is echo the voices of the world for she has abandoned the clarion call to bear faithful witness to the God who has clearly spoken on this matter.”
For the Presbyterian ministers there is also a conscience clause. They do not have to ‘officiate same-sex unions, and pastors can individually decline to perform a marriage — just as they can with any straight couple.’ ThinkProgress.com
A large Evangelical Christian Church in San Francisco, (City Church), just sent out a letter where they will not longer require celibacy for homosexual members. “Imagine feeling this from your family or religious community, ‘If you stay, you must accept celibacy with no hope that you too might one day enjoy the fullness of intellectual, spiritual, emotional, psychological and physical companionship. If you pursue a lifelong partnership, you are rejected.’ This is simply not working and people are being hurt. We must listen and respond.” religiousnewsservice.com
A New York Mega Church pastor Lentz, when asked in an interview with CNN if he every talks about homosexuality. “Yes, it’s a misquote because I do discuss it, just not the way people want me to, When it comes to homosexuality, I refuse to let another human being or a media moment dictate how we approach it. Jesus was in the thick of an era where homosexuality, just like it is today, was widely prevalent. And I’m still waiting for someone to show me the quote were Jesus addressed it on the record in front of people. You won’t find it because he never did.”
I guess this minister never read Matthew 15:19, ‘For from the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies.’ Fornication means any sexual activity outside of marriage, (masterbation, premarital sex, homosexual sex).
‘The couple shared that gay men and women were welcomed at Hillsong NYC, with Lentz stating, “We have a lot of gay men and women in our church and I pray we always do.”
Mrs. Lentz added, “It’s not our place to tell anyone how they should live, it’s – that’s their journey.” christianpost.news
We are so blessed to be traditional Catholics and to believe in the complete Holy Bible. We have read where God calls homosexual sex an abomination and who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
Yes, we do; VOLUNTARILY, not at gunpoint. And not in ways that enable them to remain homeless, hungry and begging for more.
Wow! IMHO, it just seems that with the number of Protestants in the US, there aren’t any in the SC. Thanks for the info!
That, the Most Holy Trinity, is a whole ‘nother thread...
Harry Blackmun Methodist
Warren Burger Presbyterian
William O. Douglas Presbyterian
William J. Brennan Roman Catholic
Potter Stewart Episcopalian
Thurgood Marshall Episcopalian
Lewis F. Powell, Jr. Presbyterian
But not a single Christian, I take it.
This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves.There is a quote for that?
Not a follower of Luther, but do like some of the things he did.
As Christians, we use the Holy Spirit for interpretation of the Bible.
Instead of depending on traditions of men (Catholicism Mormonism, JW's et al) we depend on God's Word
So am I to take this to mean that if a divorced person remarries they are unconditionally considered to be no longer in communion with the Church? Isn't that in direct conflict with what Jesus Himself said in Matthew 19:9?
Are you proud of this filthy lie, Catholic?
The first time I ever saw a sodomite choir was at a Mass back in 1983. That priest was likely a closet follower of Luther and a sodomite in his own right. How else would he have connected with this choir of disillusioned faggots? Probably at a local gay orgy. Fortunately for me, I don’t do religion, thanks in part to that homo, wafer chompin’, sacrilegious, “enlightened” priest, desolating the service like that. I thank God my parents never signed me up for alter boy duty. My two best friends from childhood were forced into “service” and God knows what happened to them; they both turned out angry, drug addicted losers.
In considering this allegation toward Luther juxtaposed against recent statements outta Rome, do you think that jesuit liberal globalist Francis read Luther? Maybe a little?
No worries - I didn't take it that way.
Assuming your account of the events is accurate, I'm not sure that it has any bearing on this issue. The same dynamics are not in view in this situation.
Of course, opinions on what Martin Luther would do in this situation are pure speculation on our parts but I'm certain in my mind that Luther would stand on the clear Biblical teaching.
Do a google search on the ‘gay bar’ in the Vatican ...
And remained Pope? Obviously you've never read him.
The Catholic Church (liberal) annulment process has made it easy for catholics to end their marriages... since Vatican II, the marriage bond once claimed does not hold water any more......people refer to the annulment process as the “Catholic divorce”.
Grounds for an annulment of the wedding vows can be:
1) Not wanting children, because the purpose of marriage is to have children.
2) Hidden drug and alcohol abuse (and probably other addictions) at time of marriage .
3) Infidelity before, during and after the marriage.
4) Immaturity to be able to make a life long commitment, like marrying at 17 and the marriage only last a very short time.
5) Forced to marry by spouse, parents or circumstances like pregnancy.
6) Physical or verbal abuse before, during and after the marriage.
Then there is also what is called the “Pauline Privilege” that deals with the conversion of an unbaptized spouse to the Catholic faith and the other unbaptized spouse does not support it.
So it is okay for protestants to vote to murder innocent children? Is that what you are saying. I don’t seen anyone getting killed over the “gay” agenda, but plenty dying over the issue of abortion.
I've worked with many catholics who divorce and sleep around, have abortions and in fact believe it's a woman's right. And they still go to mass and proclaim their allegiance to the church.
Amen! Truth.
How many times do I have to tell you that I’m not going to allow you to lure me in to your attempt to derail the thread? If you don’t have anything to say in relation to the topic of the thread or the comment I posted, you can just stop posting to me, because I’m not going to respond to your bait.
Does this mean that from now on you will make sure that all the n on-Catholics will be staying on topic?
If they start replying to me with off-topic posts I’ll probably point that out to them, yes.
Remember, you started this dialogue with me, I did not seek you out.
I did but I was too chicken to click on any of the links. I wonder if any Catholics would like to comment on this?
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