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To: Diamond
God does not eat or taste. God is Spirit. The divine nature of God is not altered by the Incarnation of Christ The divine nature is still divine and the human nature is still human.

Deut 4
28 And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men’s hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.


Moses warned against worshipping God's that don't eat.

Luke 24
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Luke 24
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.


Do you worship Jesus as God? Does He eat?

Isaiah 4
2 In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:


What makes you think Isaiah in verse 1 refers to the millennial reign of Christ?

Because, it does. Unless you can come up with another day where all the all the fruit of the earth was excellent. Or God calling everyone in in Jerusalem holy.

The wicked and evil people of the earth are burned away at Christ second coming. Everyone left will be holy.

No, some of Isaiah's words ripped out of context might give a false appearance of such, but that's about it.

The only words ripped out of context are from those that try to rationalize Isaiah words away so they have no real meaning for the reader. I find that modern religionist do this with 99% of the Bible. I find that people do this because they think it absolves them of the true meaning of the words. Because when they accept the words for what they are, their house of cards that are their churches, falls.

and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage;

Marriage is an earthly ordinance. After the resurrection marriage cannot be performed.

for they cannot any more die; for they are equal to the angels, and are the sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

They are still saved into the kingdom of God, but can't progress any further. They will remain angels forever.

Matt 16
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.


The keys which the Lord is speaking of is the Sealing power. The keys to bind husband and wife together for eternity.

1 Cor
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.


When we enter heaven are we no longer "in the Lord"?

The Lord explained it more clearly in the Doctrine and Covenants of my Church.

D&C 132
15 Therefore, if a man marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world.

16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in marriage; but are appointed angels in heaven, which angels are ministering servants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.


This is what Isaiah is referring to. In that day, or the Millennium, that people will rush to be compliant with all of God's commandments. The greatest, which unlocks all the glory that God can give to His children, is being being sealed for all time and eternity by the keys of the Holy Priesthood by a man to his wife.

These woman, are saying, we will provide our own food and clothing, just please be sealed to us.
66 posted on 07/05/2015 9:10:26 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper; Elsie; Tennessee Nana
As you are a Mormon this is directed to your religion.

Mormons have 'another religion'. They are not even contemplating the Christian Salvation or Messiah Who alone has the spiritual Life of God. Mormonism teaches to seek salvation after all that you can do to become worthy of The Grace of God in Christ. Since God's Grace is not imparted as payment due for worthiness, Mormons have no clue Whom The Christ is or why He died on the Cross to shed His blood for the Grace to be available to any who will believe on Him.

Mormons are without eyes to see or ears to hear The Gospel of Grace in Christ because their earthy eyes and ears are tuned to work their way to the fantasy salvation of the strange voice who delivered the gospel of Fallen Angels to Joseph Smith, which is to say delivered the great lie to Joseph Smith which is sadly believed to this day by too many lost souls perishing in Mormonism.

Mormons like to spout Bible verses to try and prop up their strange religion, but anyone who has studied that strange religion knows the first tenant of Mormonism is to doubt the accuracy of the Bible, thus Mormonism starts with the premise that The God of Christianity is not able ... Mormonism carries this even further, claiming the Gospel of Grace in Christ left the Earth with the death of the last Apostle and only when Joseph Smith was visited by one or two Angels --the story varies depending on which version Joe told is quoted-- was the True Gospel re-established among men.

As illustrated so graphically on the Day of Pentecost and in the House of Cornelius, Salvation is an immediate thing and God immediately sends His Holy Spirit Life into the believer born from above at that instance. Christian Salvation is not something to be earned after all that you can do. Such a lie makes what Christ accomplished on the Cross with His shedding of His blood less than what The Word of God declares that Deliverance to be.

73 posted on 07/05/2015 3:49:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: StormPrepper
This is what Isaiah is referring to.


Polygamy: How it all got Started
 



 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!! 
  
            Can't you EVER get straight what GOD tells you???
 
          Doctrines and Covenants 49:16 Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one awife, and they twain shall be bone flesh, and all this that the cearth might answer the end of its creation;
 
 
 
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


86 posted on 07/06/2015 2:11:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper; MHGinTN; Elsie

24 Now it will come about that instead of [r]sweet perfume there will be putrefaction;
Instead of a belt, a rope;
Instead of well-set hair, a plucked-out scalp;
Instead of fine clothes, a donning of sackcloth;
And branding instead of beauty.
25 Your men will fall by the sword
And your [s]mighty ones in battle.
26 And her [t]gates will lament and mourn,
And deserted she will sit on the ground.

For seven women will take hold of one man in that day, saying, “We will eat our own bread and wear our own clothes, only let us be called by your name; take away our reproach!”

StormPrepper, when I asked you why you thought (Isaiah 4: verse) 1 refers to the millennial reign of Christ, you replied:

Because, it does. Unless you can come up with another day where all the all the fruit of the earth was excellent. Or God calling everyone in in Jerusalem holy.

The wicked and evil people of the earth are burned away at Christ second coming. Everyone left will be holy.

And later in your same post you added,

This is what Isaiah is referring to. In that day, or the Millennium, that people will rush to be compliant with all of God's commandments. The greatest, which unlocks all the glory that God can give to His children, is being being sealed for all time and eternity by the keys of the Holy Priesthood by a man to his wife.

These woman, are saying, we will provide our own food and clothing, just please be sealed to us.

It is evident that the rest of the verses in Chapter 4 refer to the Messiah, but you didn't really answer my question which was, when the women say, "To take away our reproach, why would their be any reproach at a time when, according to your earlier statement, there is no evil in the world?

But then I realize from your replies that none of what Isaiah says in the immediately preceding verses in Isaiah 3, or elsewhere, or even generally what Scripture actually states really matters to you. It doesn't matter to you here that there were no chapter divisions and verses in the original writings and that these were added later for convenience.

In the final analysis what matters to you is what your religious organization tells you Scripture says, and even then you have to interpret what THEY currently tell you Scripture says {which may be different than what they said in the past it says).

The foregoing is all evident from your outlandish, and frankly, nutty denial that 1 Cor 7:2 is 1 Cor 7:2 and you other strange takes on other Scripture passages, such as Deuteronomy 4:28. Why do you deny that 1 Cor 7:2 is 1 Cor 7:2? Because your Mormon religion tells you to, that's why. It's certainly not because you know Hebrew or koine Greek and have analyzed the texts and made some important new discovery.

You can believe whatever Joseph Smith and his cohorts said people ought to believe, and I'm afraid you do, even when they contradict and contradicted themselves.

It doesn't matter to you what Scripture actually says to you because Mormon definitions of common Christian terms are completely different from their ordinary meanings and usage.

My impression of our conversation is that you see things through a Mormon lens, a Mormon matrix, if you will, like that movie, and there's not much I can say to you that will get through to dispel the delusion. I generally dislike Mark Twain, but he was right when he said that it's easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.

Not that it matters to you what I say to you but I will say it anyway: Joseph Smith was a con man, like Hussein Obama is a con man, except Joseph Smith was more of a religious con man and Obama is more the political type - but both were and are deceivers.

May God have mercy on you and open your eyes to His truth, and bring you to saving faith in the true Christ. Amen

Cordially,

104 posted on 07/06/2015 6:18:01 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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