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What Jesus said was not circular reasoning.

So you agree with what Jesus says here?

53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54 Whoever eats[s] my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”

For the third time...

Yes, I completely agree that Jesus said those words in John 6 but hear/read them with a different understanding than do you and many Roman Catholics.

Do you want to ask me the same thing again? Don’t.

I’ll post it again: I most definitely believe John 6 is true.

Sadly, the lack of know what the rest of the Word of God declares, from Genesis to the Revelation, allows for such errors as isolating one passage to be absolute regardless of what else is said BY JESUS elsewhere in the Bible.

This is how the different Gospel of salvation taught by RCC is foisted upon people ignorant of what the Word declares, that it is by Faith that Salvation happens, and it is immediate and it is forever, because it is based upon The Promise of God Who cannot lie and cannot be defeated.

Only by ignoring the entire Bible and focusing upon just the misinterpretation method of SELECTIVE LITERALISM taught by the RCC can one conclude a pagan ritual is authorized in order to keep your salvation or renew your salvation having dropped it some where/when.

But God allows men and women to try and work their way to obtain Salvation. They will not earn it however, no matter how many Masses or beads or water dunkings or confessionals or purgatory hours they expend.

Salvation is by Faith ONLY so that ONLY the Work of Jesus The Christ is glorified. A catholic insisting that salvation must be obtained through the baptism, sacraments, confessions, and purgatory is purposely ignoring the scenes in Acts where immediate salvation came by hearing The Word of God preached, and immediately God put His Spirit in those believers.

Catholic priests cannot transfer The Work of Jesus to even a sincere catholic. This most Precious of Gifts, the Grace of God in Christ reconciling, can be offered and given ONLY by God's Holy Spirit ... and the divinity of Jesus cannot be magically transubstantiated into a wafer to be placed upon a catholic altar on earth. That is blasphemous. Blasphemers are accursed by their own actions. What O'Brien wrote regarding priests superiority to Jesus is blasphemy. Follow it and the abyss is the only destination.