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To: verga
Thanks for your support, verga, but it is fruitless to engage in discussions with these Protestants (I don't know any of their denominations) who simply reject persons if beliefs do not conform precisely to theirs. As Catholics, we know the "big tent" imagery of Chesterton to be accurate: the Catholic Church is the overarching truth, and to the extent that a sect or denomination or different faith aligns with the Catholic Church in any way to any extent, then to that extent are they in the truth. Because of this, we can stand shoulder to shoulder with others in these spheres of commonality.

But our non-Catholic FR associates, at least nearly all of the ones I have had any occasion to engage in discussion with, reject the Catholic Church in totality, cutting off any possibility in sharing anything regarding our belief in Jesus Christ.

Rejection - only rejection from them. I give up.
453 posted on 07/03/2015 7:30:08 PM PDT by jobim
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To: jobim

Your assertion, “who simply reject persons if beliefs do not conform precisely to theirs” is inaccurate. As one of those who oppose the Catholic religion, I post on these threads precisely for persons with whom I disagree. The Lord has instructed us to contend for the faith. That faith is different from what the Catholic Church teaches persons, so we contend for the faith while caring about the adherents enough to have childish insults hurled at us.


455 posted on 07/03/2015 7:34:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: jobim
Rejection - only rejection from them. I give up.

If the only thing you can do is to pray for them, then do that. They desperately need it.

456 posted on 07/03/2015 7:34:54 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: jobim

......” the Catholic Church is the overarching truth, and to the extent that a sect, or denomination, or different faith ‘aligns with the Catholic Church’ in any way to any extent, then to that extent are they ‘in the truth’...... Because of this, we can stand shoulder to shoulder with others in these spheres of commonality.”.........

Would it be fair then to say you believe then that ‘all faiths’ are acceptable to catholics when there is commonality in and issue or similar teachings? ...and this because catholics believe that those of other faiths need to either “return” under the Pope and Vatican even if they might practice another faith such as Hinduism or Mormonism, or Islam for that matter.???


464 posted on 07/03/2015 9:12:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: jobim

When any person rejects faith in the judgment of Christ on the Cross, they have rejected the Gospel.

There is only one doctrine which isolates the RCC from the Church. It begins with the Gospel.

This rejection of the Gospel is indicated in the premises stated for rejecting Protestants. The premise of many Roman Catholics is to place their faith in the Church prior to faith in Christ on the Cross.

That misplaced faith, prior to the Gospel, is further degenerated by substituting good for what is Holy. This is consequent to eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It is the same mistake of original sin.


465 posted on 07/03/2015 9:12:17 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: jobim

“the Catholic Church is the overarching truth”

If that were true your CC would not disagree with Holy Scriptures both would be one consistent word.


469 posted on 07/03/2015 10:13:34 PM PDT by mrobisr
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