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To: RnMomof7

“Then you do not have a Savior.. you have a probationary officer.”

You can deny what scriptures says, but I choose not to:

Jesus himself tells us, “He who endures to the end will be saved” (Matt. 24:13; 25:31–46).

“See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off” (Rom. 11:22; see also Heb. 10:26–29, 2 Pet. 2:20–21).

Philippians 2:12, “Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”


87 posted on 06/27/2015 1:57:06 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

“You can deny what scriptures says, but I choose not to...”

We can all grab Scripture bytes and jab each other, but what is the lesson of the WHOLE?

God proved, laboriously so, that man ain’t got da goods! Right there in Leviticus 18:5 you read, “Keep my decrees and laws, for the person who obeys them will live by them”. Many years later the Spirit has Paul write:

“For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. But the righteousness based on faith says...” (Romans 10)

The law is not of faith, but one could listen to endless sermons and read endless encyclicals & Catechisms and never know it. But it’s right there in SCRIPTURE. What happened between Deuteronomy and Romans to change “the person who does the commandments shall live by them” to “not of faith”?

For one a Stumbling Stone was laid!

““Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense;
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.” (Romans 9:33)

Anyone who chooses to follow Israel’s errant path of trying to pursue righteousness as if by works is toast, since “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law and do them” (Galatians 3:10)

James reiterates this fatal situation in his letter (2:10): “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.”

For your consideration.


89 posted on 06/27/2015 3:34:50 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: vladimir998
Philippians 2:12, “Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”

The problem with proof texting ..

Philippians 2: 12So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; 13for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.

Ya need to pay attention to ALL of John 6... not just the ones Romans like

37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Our salvation is not based on our faithfulness... but His..

As I said Catholics have no Savior.. they have a parole officer

94 posted on 06/27/2015 4:57:45 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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