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To: vladimir998; editor-surveyor
e-s:“Grace allows our innocence before Yeshua, and the innocent are never punished.”

v998: Are you saying the good never suffer?

Did you take lessons on red herrings or how to twist words?

Or do Catholics actually believe that all suffering is punishment by God?

You do know, don't you, that God does not treat us according to our sins or repay us according to our iniquities?

Psalm 103:8-14 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. He will not always chide, nor will he keep his anger forever. He does not deal with us according to our sins, nor repay us according to our iniquities.

For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his steadfast love toward those who fear him; as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us. As a father shows compassion to his children, so the Lord shows compassion to those who fear him. For he knows our frame; he remembers that we are dust.

Then again, that doesn't sound like the Catholic God.

273 posted on 07/02/2015 9:37:38 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

e-s said:“Grace allows our innocence before Yeshua, and the innocent are never punished.”

I said: “v998: Are you saying the good never suffer?

You said: “Did you take lessons on red herrings or how to twist words?”

That is the sort of comment that really makes me think anti-Catholicism is debilitating to the human mind. Please note editor surveyor CREATED THE RED HERRING by using the word “punished” even though Catholics do not believe Purgatory is a place/state of being of suffering NOT PUNISHMENT. I corrected his ERROR. You then accuse me - for using the CORRECT TERM - for creating a red herring. Did you even notice he used the wrong term, a theologically wrong term? Did you? Anti-Catholics repeatedly attack things they apparently don’t understand enough to even state correctly!

“Or do Catholics actually believe that all suffering is punishment by God?”

No. God allows whatever suffering exists, but it is not all from Him by any means.

“You do know, don’t you, that God does not treat us according to our sins or repay us according to our iniquities?”

You do know that we suffer from sin in two temporal ways?: 1) Sin entering the world disrupted that which God established and suffering and death came with it, 2) our own sins cause temporal suffering - our own and others.

“Then again, that doesn’t sound like the Catholic God.”

Yes, it does. But clearly the anti-Catholics don’t understand Him or worse don’t know Him much at all.


279 posted on 07/02/2015 11:45:52 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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