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To: metmom
"The Ark is JESUS, not Mary."

That's not Biblical. Jesus didn't just "carry" God or any of God's attributes (glory.) Jesus IS God.

"Is." We both know that.

Jesus is God. Mary carried God.

Types and foreshadowings are often multivalent--- that is, they have more than one application. They aren't identical, but they rhyme. So I am in no position to rule out that Jesus was in some sense like the Ark of the Covenant. But He would be MORE like the CONTENTS of the vessel: the manna (He, the Bread of Life), the Tablets of the Law (He, the Lawgiver), the powerful Staff of Aaron (He, the Power of Life itself).

He was the sacred cargo, the portable Presence of God so to speak, so to speak, the sacred entity being carried. And who carried Jesus? His mother, the Ark.

"Mary was not untouchable. There's not one shred of evidence for support of that in Scripture.... Did people die when they touched Mary? How did her mother not die then, if touching Mary resulted in death? "

Nobody said Mary was untouchable. I didn't say that. Types aren't point-by-point duplicates. They suggest, they allude, they "Rhyme". (She was also not made of wood overlaid with gold, and was not carried around on poles, either.)

The idea was "inviolability," which is not the same as untouchability. How could the mother of God's child be given to somebody else in the full sense, in a one-flesh union, if she were already given to God? She was already united with God--- the living God, she was not God's widow! --- and her flesh was given over for the Incarnation of the Son of God. His flesh and human nature were all from her.

"How did people not die when Jesus touched them?"

I never said they would. It's true that the Hebrews believed you could not see God, and live. You could not even touch Sinai, the holy Mountain, when God was present upon its heights, let you die. So, people touching Jesus and living? I must bow my head and say, "A miracle of grace."

93 posted on 06/26/2015 8:06:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (To know Thee is complete righteousness; to know Thy power is the root of immortality. - Wisdom 15:3)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom; RnMomof7; CynicalBear; Springfield Reformer; Mark17
I am certain you have read the Gospel of John. Do you have any idea the reality of Jesus Christ as The Word with God in the Beginning, through Whom all things were made that were made? Was Jesus in a human body then, in the benginning?

As you assert that Mary 'carried God in her womb', think about the implications of such an assertion with regard to the 'body' Jesus Christ had when He was with God in the Beginning. Is it possible that Mary carried in her womb 'a' body into which Jesus Christ would come in whatever body form He had in the beginning with God? Being the vessel He would come into, the Holy Spirit prepared a body for The Christ. That does not mean the body was already God in Mary's womb. The Bible even states that very concept with 'behold, though hast prepared for me a body'.

These sorts of though lines are so difficult for a magic mystery religion adherent because they step past learning what the Word of God actually teaches to hide behind the 'it's a mystery I just was never meantr to understand but my leaders might answer that for you.'

95 posted on 06/26/2015 8:27:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Try Hebrews 10:5 and the OT passage Paul was referring to ...


96 posted on 06/26/2015 9:39:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Types aren't point-by-point duplicates.

Unless Rome says so.

98 posted on 06/26/2015 9:41:12 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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