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To: Syncro

Your comment: “Broad brushing really doesn’t cut it.”

Born again believers in Jesus are those that with all their heart and soul follow Jesus and what He taught.

That is great. I encourage all to do God’s will.

Then they shouldn’t make false statements about the Catholic faith:

If they don’t want to believe in the Real Presence and as Jesus has stated as the food for eternal salvation, then they may not be following God’s will. But to insist that Jesus is wrong with convoluted logic, then they have stepped over the line and Catholics will defend the teachings of Jesus and the Catholic Church.

The same with the Blessed Mother. We do not worship Mary, but we place her in high esteem and defend the Church’s teachings.

God will judge Ted Kennedy. I do not understand the annulment of his marriage. If not done properly, the the responsible party will answer to God. The Catholic Church is composed of saints and sinners. I do not understand how any Catholic can vote for a democrat who supports abortion, but then many Catholic women have abortions. Catholics do not always do God’s will. I can imagine God’s disappointment in all of us.

It seems to me that the Catholic Church has well thought out positions on the faith based on the teachings of Jesus. On the other hand, it seems that the protestors have their personal opinion and weak logic and facts to support their comments.

As far as straying from the Bible, many individuals stray, and many protestant churches have also strayed. For example on marriage:

Faiths Allowing Same-Sex Marriages

United Church of Christ: The United Church of Christ was the first mainstream Christian church to fully support same-sex marriage and perform marriage ceremonies.
Jewish: Reform Judaism embraces same-sex marriage and rabbis can perform ceremonies. Some conservative and re-constructionist synagogues do as well.
Quaker: The willingness to perform gay marriages varies by meetinghouse, but there is some acceptance and performance of same-sex marriages among Quakers.
Metropolitan Community Church
Unitarian Universalist
Unity Church

Faiths Allowing Limited Same-Sex Marriage

Episcopal: In the Episcopal Church, priests are authorized to bless same-sex wedding ceremonies but not declare the marriage official or sign the marriage license. Certain dioceses can perform full marriage ceremonies.
Lutheran: Lutheran churches can decide, on a church-by-church basis, whether or not to perform same-sex marriage.

Faiths Disallowing Same-Sex Marriages

Baptists: Southern Baptist and Conservative Baptist churches will not conduct same-sex marriages, nor will they allow them to be held in their churches. Some American Baptist churches are open and inclusive.
Methodist
Catholic
Presbyterian (some will bless ceremonies)

In addition, I do not know of any Eastern religions which sanction gay marriage and perform same-sex marriage ceremonies.

From: http://www.gayweddinginstitute.com/_blog/Gay_Weddings_are_Good_for_Business/post/Which_Churches_Allow_Gay_Marriage/


234 posted on 06/20/2015 12:58:25 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: betty boop

Here’s another one on the list.


235 posted on 06/20/2015 1:03:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ADSUM
Then they shouldn’t make false statements about the Catholic faith:

I hate when things like this are EXPOSED!


 
 
 
Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

254 posted on 06/20/2015 2:40:09 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
If they [Born again believers in Jesus that with all their heart and soul follow Jesus and what He taught] don’t want to believe in the Real Presence...

That phrase to Catholics means Jesus in a small piece of bread, to be consumed or put in a fancy case and worshiped as if it is Jesus.

Certainly Christians will not believe that.

There is no Holy Bible Scripture where that is condoned or even alluded to with out a "clever" twisting of God's Word.

It is not the Born again believers in Jesus that with all their heart and soul follow Jesus and what He taught that "may not be following God’s will."

... But to insist that Jesus is wrong...

Nice Segway, but no Christians are or ever will say that Jesus is wrong.

What is wrong is to insist that Jesus instituted something that is no where to be found in the Word of God.

How very tacky to state what you stated. But I so understand that you have to believe what the Catholic Church teaches even if you have to accuse others falsely of horrible blaspheme.

We do not worship Mary, but we place her in high esteem and defend the Church’s teachings

So you agree with Leo and Pius that salvation can be obtained from Mary? (See an earlier post of mine for documentation.)

As far as your problems with Protestant denominations, I'm not interested. (Catholicism, heal thyself...there is a beam to deal with)

I am not a Protestant.

265 posted on 06/20/2015 4:13:09 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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