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To: ealgeone

Picky! Picky! So you require 100% agreement. Then seek out a dictator. I think the Korean dictator gets a 100%.

I hope that you will get the whole truth when you die.

I will defend the teachings of the Catholic Church as best as I can, but I do not understand the negative anti-Catholic feelings that are based on personal opinions, feelings or half truths.

Some of the mysteries of God, we need to take on faith. Can you fully understand and explain the Trinity?


216 posted on 06/13/2015 6:58:50 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
Catholicism claims it doesn't contradict the ECFs or the Word.

Well....we have contradiction on this topic and many others from the ECFs.

219 posted on 06/13/2015 7:06:18 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM
Likewise I accept Sacred Scripture according to that sense which Holy mother Church held and holds, since it is her right to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the Holy Scriptures; nor will I ever receive and interpret them except according to the unanimous consent of the fathers. http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V1.htm

As I said....if the ECFs were in 100% agreement you and other catholics might have a point.

But as has been shown the ECFs are not in unanimous agreement....unless catholicism redefines unanimous.

220 posted on 06/13/2015 7:14:05 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM

If I could explain it to you, would you comprehend it or even accept it long enough to think about it? ... I’ve actually done this task here at FR, before.


233 posted on 06/13/2015 9:50:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ADSUM
Can a Catholic mind see a contradiction defined for them in plain Bible passages? Let's see:

Don't eat the blood, the life is in the blood

Genesis 9:4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life , that is, its blood.

Leviticus 3:17 It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, in all your dwelling places, that you eat neither fat nor blood. [Was Jesus in the generations of Mary?]

Leviticus 7:26-27 Moreover, you shall eat no blood whatever, whether of fowl or of animal, in any of your dwelling places. Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.”

Leviticus 17:10-14 “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. [Why do Catholics not believe Jesus has atoned ONCE FOR ALL FOREVER, so they keep trying to get His blood into them for atonement?] Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who sojourns among you eat blood.

Deuteronomy 12:16 Only you shall not eat the blood ; you shall pour it out on the earth like water.

Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life , and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.

Acts 15:12-29 And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,
“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

234 posted on 06/13/2015 10:08:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ADSUM
I will defend the teachings of the Catholic Church as best as I can, but I do not understand the negative anti-Catholic feelings that are based on personal opinions, feelings or half truths.

Why do you leave out...

Clear bible teaching?


252 posted on 06/14/2015 4:18:21 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM; ealgeone; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
Picky! Picky! So you require 100% agreement. Then seek out a dictator. I think the Korean dictator gets a 100%.

Now wait a minute.

The chief criticism and condemnation of Protestantism as a whole is their lack of unity. And Catholics brag on their unity of belief under one headship.

And from the church that in its catechism demands agreement with it or anathemas are pronounced on the hearer?

And now it's up for grabs? Y'all can take it or leave it?

I hope that you will get the whole truth when you die.

We have the truth.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

265 posted on 06/14/2015 5:05:05 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM; ealgeone; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
Picky! Picky! So you require 100% agreement. Then seek out a dictator. I think the Korean dictator gets a 100%.

If y'all are teaching the truth, there had better be 100% agreement in the writings of the ECF's. If there's not, someone is wrong, in error.

How do you determine who that one is? To what standard of truth is the claim compared and verified or rejected?

266 posted on 06/14/2015 5:08:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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