Posted on 06/05/2015 7:01:50 AM PDT by Salvation
The Nicene Creed fittingly noted four marks of the True Church: one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic. These marks identify four essential qualities and characteristics of the Church that distinguish the True Church from any false claimants. Now my surname may be “Pope,” but I surely cannot add authoritatively to this venerable list. Nevertheless, permit me a couple of “prayerful additions” to the four marks of the Church. These cannot join the official list but I humbly submit these “marks” for your consideration to serve in a similar way in distinguishing the True Church from false claimants and giving insight into the Church’s truest identity.
The 5th Mark of the Church: She is Hated by the World. Jesus consistently taught us to expect the hatred of the world if we are true disciples.
If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the words I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also (John 15:18-20).
All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. A student is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebub,how much more the members of his household! (Matt 10:22-24)
Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets (Luke 6:26).
One of the more painful aspects of Church life, yet one of those of which I am the most “proud,” is that we are hated very specially by the world. While it is true that some of the Evangelicals are ridiculed, few can deny that there is a very special and intense hatred for the Catholic Church, and it is widely on display. It’s never OK (nor should it be) to scorn Jews or Muslims, or to mock or attack their faith traditions. Most of the other Christian denominations (with the exception of the Evangelicals) escape the bulk of the hatred. But the Catholic Church—ah, the Catholic Church—on her it seems to be open season. We are scorned and portrayed unsympathetically in movies. Our history is misrepresented; our sins (and we do have them) are exaggerated; our teachings are called bigoted, backward, unrealistic, and out-of-date. And no matter how ugly, bigoted, and inaccurate the world’s hatred is, very few express any outrage at how we are treated and misrepresented. Try any of this on Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, etc. and the outrage and claims of bigotry are echoed by the media (as they should be). Meanwhile, Dan Brown, et al. get to go on and on about “evil” priests and bishops; a crucifix can be submerged in urine or the Blessed Mother smeared with dung and this is praised as “art” and funded by government grants.
Now I am not complaining (though these things are certainly wrong). I am actually quite hopeful that this means we are doing something right. We are a sign of contradiction to the world and we are hated for it. We speak the truth to a world gone mad; we hold on to that “old time religion.” That we are hated puts us in good company with Jesus and the prophets and martyrs who stood with Him. If we are really doing what we should, the Church ought to experience significant hatred from the world. Being hated by the world is an essential mark of the Church, if you ask me. We do not look to be hated, nor do we seek out conflict. But in preaching Christ crucified, in preaching the whole counsel of God and not some watered-down version of it, we surely do find that hatred and conflict come to us. Some people and some denominations try to fit in with the world. They accept its ways and compromise the clear teaching of Christ. But the True Church speaks the whole truth of God in love and does not cave in to the world’s demands. The true Church, by Christ’s promise, is hated by the world and by those allied with and wedded to it. But there’s no need to fear … the sixth “mark” is here!
The Sixth Mark of the Church: She is Perduring. To perdure means to permanently endure. Here, too, Christ firmly established this principle and promise to the true Church:
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it (Matt 16:18).
There are no governments or nations that have lasted 2000 years. Very little else in this world can claim such antiquity and even if it tries, can it claim to have remained essentially unchanged in its dogma or teaching? The Catholic Church is one, even after 2000 years. We have an unbroken line of popes going back to Peter and an unbroken line of succession for all the bishops back to the Apostles through the laying on of hands. Not bad. Now consider that this is a miracle! If the Church were dependent upon human beings in order to exist and stay unified, how long do think she would have lasted? Probably about twenty minutes, tops! Our history is not without some pretty questionable moments in terms of the human elements. That the gates of Hell would never prevail against the Church certainly suggests that they would try again and again. But here we are, a miracle, still standing after all these years. Christ is true to his promise to remain with us all days unto the consummation of the world. We, the human elements of the Church, may not live Christ’s teachings perfectly, but the Church has never failed to teach what Christ taught even (as now) when the world hated us for it. At times we are tepid and struggle to find our voice, but Christ still speaks and ministers even in our weakness. Yes, the Catholic Church is a miracle, the Work of Jesus Christ. And thus the sixth mark of the Church is that she perdures. By God’s grace we exhibit this sixth mark. Nations have come and gone, empires risen and fallen, eras opened and closed, but through it all we have perdured.
So there it is. I believe in one, holy, catholic, apostolic, (and, if you don’t mind my adding) hated, and perduring Church.
Here’s a very interesting hip-hop song by the rapper Akalyte on these two additional “marks” of the Church.
To listen -- http://blog.adw.org/2015/06/the-5th-and-6th-marks-of-the-church/
Monsignor Pope Ping!
**The 5th Mark of the Church: She is Hated by the World.**
That statement is even true on FR religion forum.
The Mormons would dispute you over this, the fact that that the world hates them, they say, is proof to them that THEY, not you, are the true church.
True Christians, though we strongly disagree with both cults, do not hate either. RCC’s on this forum, and Mormons, can’t discern the difference between people disagreeing with their claims, and hating them.
I think there are a lot more catholic bashing threads than Mormon bashing threads.
Would be interesting to keep track of for a month.
Catholicism is not a cult. It is the one true church founded by Jesus Christ.
Catholicism is not a cult. It is the one true church founded by Jesus Christ.
It’s not bashing, its called witnessing the truth. The RF of FR is no place for anybody that can’t handle people disagreeing with them.
Papists could get away with that kind of talk in medieval times, but, thanks to the Bible being now available to any and all, no more. RCC claims do not square with the facts in the Bible.
One would have to be blind, not to see it.
You use the word Papists.
I’ve heard it said that many people who don’t like the Catholic Church use it because it irritates Catholics, is that true?
Re: my post 8. Pope Francis, supposedly over the whole of Christianity, is a main definitive of the RCC. Do you not believe that? If so, then you are a Papist. Just stating the truth that’s all.
I was just calling attention to your use of the word. Look it up. It is slang. Why not just say Catholics?
Another reason is that Christ is the founder of the Catholic Church. There was NO OTHER church for 1500 years until Luther did his thing.
So perhaps that is why I get upset by the word, Papists, since it denigrates the Most Holy Name of Christ.
Yes, Christ did set in motion with St. Peter and the apostles the means to continue his Church. But it all comes from Christ, doesn’t it?
Good night.
BTW, we don’t have a Papist Caucus on FR — LOL! We have a Catholic Caucus — thank God!
Salvation is followed and her posts appreciated by thousands, if not many tens of thousands.
Sasportas, we appreciate your efforts, but frankly you've got a ways to go to catch up to her.
It’s not slang, its fact. Stop claiming that Pope Francis is the head of the rest of us Christians, and the irritation you speak of will go away. Until you do, you are Papists.
Thanks, steve.
Dang it. I missed #16.
So did I.
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