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To: Raycpa

You are either never saved or you are truly saved or you are falsely saved. There is only one of the three, not some false choice you have conjured up.

Again, was Josh Duggar falsely saved at age 7-8 when he was supposedly “saved”?

Was he falsely saved if he did commit these alleged acts?

If his family said he was saved at age 7-8 and if they continued to say he was saved afterwards, then how do they know that Josh is saved now or is actually falsely saved even were he to say now that he is saved?


27 posted on 06/01/2015 12:23:39 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

3*2 = 6

You are either never saved (and sinned or not sinned) or you are truly saved (and sinned or not sinned) or you are falsely saved (and sinned or not sinned).

Then add know or not know we get 12 choices.. 6*2

With 12 choices it is simple to go round and round.


35 posted on 06/01/2015 12:33:18 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“Again, was Josh Duggar falsely saved at age 7-8 when he was supposedly “saved”?”

what do you mean by saved and what does his parents mean by saved? are they saying Josh accepted Christ as his saviour at 7-8? even if he accepted Christ as his saviour at that age, it does not preclude him from succumbing to sin again later in life, as it would for anyone.

if a person sins and truly repents of his sin; then, through the atoning grace of our Lord and Saviour, he will be saved regardless of any backsliding, unless the sin involves denying the Holy Ghost’s revelation to that individual of the truthfulness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

people routinely on their death beds accept Christ as their saviour, regardless of the life they have led, and many, if not most, churches accept that as enough to ensure their salvation [but not all, e.g. the mormon church].

whether Josh was “truly” or “falsely” saved at the age of 7-8 [however interpreted] has no bearing on his ultimate judgment and salvation by the Good Lord upon his death.


71 posted on 06/01/2015 1:40:43 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We are being Saved. The proof of Salvation is in dying Saved. You cannot be plucked from His Hand but you can jump out. You can claim Salvation all you want but it doesn’t mean you are Saved.
Josh succumbed to sin just like all of us. Anyone who has thought of such a thing is just as guilty as Josh.


76 posted on 06/01/2015 1:47:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
>> Again, was Josh Duggar falsely saved at age 7-8 when he was supposedly “saved”? Was he falsely saved if he did commit these alleged acts? If his family said he was saved at age 7-8 and if they continued to say he was saved afterwards, then how do they know that Josh is saved now or is actually falsely saved even were he to say now that he is saved? <<

Neither Josh Duggar or any of his family were instantly "saved" in the past, whether or not they think they are. Salvation is a lifelong process.

126 posted on 06/03/2015 8:57:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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