Posted on 05/28/2015 8:12:00 AM PDT by RnMomof7
This past weekend pope Francis canonized four new saints in a ceremony which received extra attention as two of the four were of Palestinian origin. One of the new Palestinian saints, Sister Mariam Baouardy (1846-1878), was a mystic and stigmatic also known as Mary Jesus Crucified. She was a Palestinian and foundress of the Discalced Carmelites of Bethlehem in the late 1800s. The other new Palestinian saint, Sister Marie Alphonsine Danil Ghattas (1843-1927), was a co-founder of the Congregation of the Rosary Sisters, who spent much of her life in Bethlehem founding schools and orphanages.
Despite the interesting politics of the situation, we will stick to commenting on the theological issues. What is a saint? How does one become a saint? And what is Rome doing when they canonize someone?
First, a brief theology on Roman Catholicisms view of the saints.
The term canonization refers to a decree that is binding on the Universal Church issued from the pope which commands the public ecclesiastical veneration of an individual.
Romes criteria for recognizing an individual as a saint involves a few steps. First, the persons life is evaluated to determine if, according to Rome, they possessed orthodox doctrine and heroic virtue, normally a number of years after death. Upon Romes approval, the individual is considered venerable. Then, the nominee is typically beatified, on the condition that a miracle occurred after the individuals death and consequent of petition to that individual. According to Rome, this ensures that the saint-candidate is both in heaven and able to intercede for those who pray to them. At this point, the individual is permitted by Rome to be beatified, though not yet canonized. Finally, the candidate will be declared a saint upon Romes determination that they performed a second miracle. It should be noted that typically only the saints are said to be in heaven for certain. The title of saint tells us that the person lived a holy life, is in heaven, and is to be honored by the universal Church (http://www.catholic.org/saints/faq.php). Saints are thought to be special friends and servants of God whose holy lives have made them worthy of his special love. Once the pope canonizes the individual, the declaration is infallible and irrevocable.
Saints are officially venerated throughout the year. All Saints Day falls on November 1 and, according to Urban IV, was created to supply any deficiencies in the faithfuls celebration of saints feasts during the year. Many of the saints have specific days set for their veneration. A look at the Roman Catholic saint calendar is simply exhausting due to the sheer quantity of saint holidays. For example, today (May 20th) venerates St. Bernadine of Sienna, the patron saint of gambling, due to his preaching against the practice. June 13th venerates St. Anthony of Padua, the patron saint of lost items, to whom some Catholics are taught to pray, Dear St. Anthony, come around, something is lost and cant be found.
There are others, for example, St. Genesius (the patron saint of theatrical performers), St. Francis Borgia (the patron saint of earthquakes), St. Teresa of Avila (patron saint of headaches), St. Isidore of Seville (the patron saint of the internet), St. Apollonia (the patron saint of toothaches), St. Fiarce (patron saint of taxi drivers), and, my personal favorite, St. Drogo (the patron saint of unattractive people and coffee). In case one struggles to remember which saint is to be venerated on which day, a Saint of the Day smart phone app has been created to assist with that.
Additionally, prayers are to be offered both by the saints and to the saints. In other words, the saints can pray for you, as well as be prayed to by you.
But, despite the profuse teaching, the Roman Catholic doctrine of the saints violates Scripture on several crucial points. Here are a few of them:
Romes practice of canonization is largely an authority issue. In Roman Catholic teaching, the pope is considered head of the church and vicar of Christ, among other things. As such, he is thought to have the final say on matters such as who is and is not a saint. His act of canonization is said to be infallible, irrevocable, and universally binding. These pronouncements are fundamentally rooted in the authority and headship said to rest in the pope.
However, Scripture teaches that Christ is the perpetual head of the church. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all (Eph. 1:22-23). As such, he alone has the authority to declare who is in heaven, who is not, and who are saints, and who are not.
If Gods people were to pray to the saints, certainly Scripture would teach that. But the overwhelming testimony of Scripture teaches that prayer be directed towards God. For example, when Christ taught us how to pray, he instructed us to pray to God: But when you pray pray to your Father (Matt. 6:6), Pray, then, in this way: Our Father who is in heaven (Matt. 6:9), and, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him (Luke 18:7). In each of these teachings, we are instructed to pray to God.
The Apostle Paul instructed that we pray to God: Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God (Phil. 4:6).
The biblical examples of prayer describe prayer being directed towards God alone. Not one prayer in the Psalms is directed towards the dead. Further, both Jesus (e.g. John 11:41, 17:1) and the Apostles prayed only to God (e.g. Acts 1:24, 4:24, 16:25).
Rome argues that Gods people ought to ask the dead saints to pray for them on the grounds that we ask living people to pray for us. But there is a problem with that: we can speak with the living, but we are forbidden to do so with the dead (Deut 18:10-12). And when they say to you, Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living? (Isa. 8:19). Prayer is to be directed only to God.
Rome argues that there is nothing wrong with honoring the saints since we honor the living. However, Rome teaches that the saints are to be given more than honor. When a saint is canonized, the church is under mandate, by papal infallibility, to venerate them. Combine that with the act of praying to the saints, and the consequence is idolatry, which Scripture condemns (Exod. 20:4-5, Matt. 4:10). Whether or not Rome explicitly affirms the worship of the saints, the actions are clear enough.
The most serious issue with Romes teaching on the saints relates to the biblical gospel of Jesus Christ. Rome teaches that saints are really the only individuals who can have the assurance of heaven, and have been granted that status through extraordinary morality and miracles. For that, Romes doctrine of the saints commits grievous error.
The title, saint, does not refer to an elite Christian, but every Christian. For example, the Apostle Paul referred to everyone in the churches at Rome (Rom. 1:7), Ephesus (Eph. 1:1), and Philippi (both lay people and deacons and elders) as saints (Phil. 1:1). And, perhaps outrageously from a human standpoint, the Apostle referred even to the regenerate Corinthians as saints (1 Cor. 1:2).
How in the world could sinful and simple, nobodies across the Roman Empire be considered saints?
Contrary to Rome, it is not our works that merit the status of sainthood and entrance into heaven with God. Saint is a God-given title to all who have been justified by faith alone in the Person and substitutionary work of Jesus Christ. God placed the full penalty of our sin on the sinless Christ when he died on the cross. Consequently, the most flagrant sinner may be declared a saint and in the right with God by faith alone in Christ alone. We become a saint, not by our valiant display of deeds, but by the vicarious death of Christ. Every ounce of Gods wrath due sinners was turned to Christ such that we can rest in our standing as saints of Christ and the assurance of heaven to come. Sinners become saints, not by heroic works, but humble faith. You do not need extraordinary virtue to secure sainthood with God, but an extraordinary Savior.
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ (Rom. 5:1).
Along with being biblically unsubstantiated, Romes teaching on the saints contradicts Scripture on some of the most fundamental doctrines of Christianity. In light of these serious biblical errors, it must be rejected.
Your post reminds me of a former catholic who now has full assurance of her salvation and is teaching others the Gospel Message as Jesus taught it.
She often shared some of the things she learned in catholicism and how she never felt she could live up to all the requirements...adding that she felt weighed down.
LOL...well Only Jesus would know that....but interesting that you thought of that Elsie.
It's not a sin to attempt to contact dead people??? Is it a sin to pray TO people who have died???
Look at Deuteronomy 18:11.
It is never a sin to ask someone, living or dead, to pray to God for us. Such being a sin is found nowhere in the Bible. It is just your opinion. I am surprised that you, as someone who claims sola Scriptura, would suggest something so dogmatically that is not found in the Bible. Not so sola Scriptura after all if your human reasoning trumps the Bible.
Thanks for re sending that to Mama. If I ever had to do that, at my age, it would never be for beauty. Nothing will help that, but my honey thinks it is better what is IN my head, than what is ON my head. She thinks I am cool. I really got her fooled.
Now, as to your other question. Lev 20:6, Lev 19:31, Deut 18:9-12. Isaiah 8:19, 2 Kings 21:6, 2 Kings 23:24, Lev 20:27, 1 Sam 28:7-19, Isaiah 19:3. These were called necromancers, among other names, and they practiced necromancy. Imagine that.
Synonyms: bewitchery, conjuring, devilry, diablerie, enchantment, Ensorcellment, mojo, magic, sorcery, voodooism, witchcraft, wizardry. Since I am not planning on playing ANY Bill Clinton type words games, ahs is not zayin' no mo about dat in dis here tread. Rightly or wrongly, people are free to believe whatever they like.
He could plant grass today, and see it 3 inches high in the meantime.
It is called the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass:
The one sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross made present to us in the Mass and always directed to God the Father and no one else.
Oh my word! Crazy.
Well, my eyes look half closed so it is definitely so I can see. They have been swollen from both surgeries and then my allergies did not help any. Be careful how you fall so you do not tear eye muscles. It is no fun whatsoever, esp having a surgeon use tweezers afterwards to stretch the eye muscles. After my last stretch, she told me I was her best patient because I did not move when she was using the tweezers. I had no intention of moving with those in my eye!
Thanks Sweetie. I can use all the prayers you can send. Oh, that 2007 Honda finally got over 20,000 miles on it. I am improving. : )
Like someone would have saved it...LOLOLOLOLOL...And now they pray to it...Who in their right mind??????????
Now that's not what I ask, is it??? I'm not interested in you answering a question I didn't ask...What's the problem, you a little leary about answering the question???
If you want to see catholic superstitions, visit the Philippines. It is SO pervasive, that even true born again Christians need to be set straight sometimes. My honey, a Christian lady, wanted to put garlic on the window sill. I just said no, that is a superstition. We don't do superstitions.
Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones, now hear the word of the Lord. I have a feeling many will rise again to everlasting shame and contempt, so I have no intention of leaving my salvation to chance. Make sense?
Look, there are some super fine catholic people out there. I know some, like some of my former catholic high school classmates. I have some friendly banter with a couple of them, but it is true, I also felt that no matter how I tried, I could not live up to their requirements. When I told a priest I could not do it, all he did, was tell me to lead a good life. You don't think that didn't frustrate me? Things are different now. 😇
Even as a catholic, I had never heard of this one, until today. Incredible.
Is this considered an example of the great intellectual prowess that Catholic brag on or is simply a finessing of the RF guidelines against not calling anyone a liar?
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