Wow! Now we understand why there is a problem with calling the Blessed Mother Blessed!! We have shown repeatedly, over and over, that the supports for loving the Blessed Mary are in scripture, in Luke. However:
If a person doesn’t understand that we have free will, then the incredible choice that the Blessed Mother made in her Fiat will never be appreciated! The incredible wrong basis for the extreme error makes much more sense now.
Also -the entire bible is about free will and people’s choices, we don’t need chapter and verse because the whole of salvation history is a recounting of the choices of the men and women in the drama. Chapter and verse would be impossible to pick out because the enitre text is the story of man’s choices towards God or away; although I have no doubts that specific verses could be found.
The actual question to ask is: prove from the bible that we don’t have free will.
While we are discussing it, it can’t be proved from the bible that it considers itself to be the only source of doctrine anyway!
Being “required” to provide Chapter and Verse is irrelevant! This does not somehow call into question the inerrancy of the bible and it can and should be used to prove doctrine. It simply means that it isn’t the ONLY way to prove doctrine.
It cannot be proved from the bible that the bible is the only source of doctrine; because the bible doesn’t say that.
If anything, the earliest Christians who were born Jewish would have always assumed an oral Talmudic type tradition to go along with written scriptures. The Talmud is the oral instruction that Moses received along with the Torah. The idea that the first Christians suddenly only used written scripture is actually ludicrous; especially since the settled canon wasn’t even written down in one place and the new testament epistles consisted of scattered letters across Asia Minor at first!!
The earliest Christians who were born Jewish would not have even been capable of conceiving of a religious tradition without an oral component and that didn’t suddenly vanish into thin air until Gutenberg came along! (Gutenberg’s first bible was a vulgate, anyway!)
I know- preaching to the choir - thanks for letting me have a rant.
Keep up the good work in apologetics verga- Truth - the gates of hell will NOT prevail although satan will certainly try.
The Sport or the Lounge model?
CAn you post Scripture that shows Mary CHOOSING something?
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I invite you to try that “blessed mother” stuff when you are standing at the Great White Throne, and Yeshua says “Depart from me, I never knew you.”
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