[CynicalBear]

>>So none of you can make that claim to be saved then. Got it.<<

That's not what I said. I said we can't judge whether SOMEONE ELSE is saved or not. We don't know what the relationship of anyone other than ourselves is with Christ. We can observe who an individual focuses on and if it's anyone other than Christ it's doubtful because Christ said NO ONE comes before Him and God said He would give His glory to non other.

>>BTW saying that I concur makes you guilty of mind reading<<

I said "obviously" by observation. I can give my impression by my observation all day long.

[verga]

That's not what I said. I said we can't judge whether SOMEONE ELSE is saved or not. We don't know what the relationship of anyone other than ourselves is with Christ. We can observe who an individual focuses on and if it's anyone other than Christ it's doubtful because Christ said NO ONE comes before Him and God said He would give His glory to non other.

You need to pick one story and stick to it. First it's: I said we can't judge whether SOMEONE ELSE is saved or not

Then in the next breath you are making a judgment based on observation:We can observe who an individual focuses on and if it's anyone other than Christ it's doubtful

Those are direct contradictions.

And you prove it again here:I said "obviously" by observation. I can give my impression by my observation all day long.

So then how about giving me your "Impression" as to whether or not these people are saved or not saved:

Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker Jimmy Swaggert (Before, during, or after the adultery)

Peter Popoff and his magical wheelchairs.

Benny Hinn

Joel Osteen.

Ernest Angley

Fred Phelps

I am betting you won't.