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BREAKING: Pope takes major step toward formal heresy
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Posted on 05/26/2015 1:05:01 PM PDT by piusv
"I feel like saying something that may sound controversial or even heretical. But there is someone who knows that despite our differences we are one. It is he who is persecuting us. It is he that is persecuting Christians today; he who is anointing us with the blood of martyrdom, knows that Christians are disciples of Christ. That we are one, that we are brothers! He doesn't care if they are Evangelicals, Orthodox, Lutherans, Catholics or Apostolic. He doesn't care! They are Christians."
TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicism; ecumenism; falseecumenism; globalwarminghoax; heresy; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; sectarianturmoil
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To: metmom
However, in answer to your question, I am saved. My sin IS forgiven now. I am seated with Christ in the heavenly places now. I am going to heaven when I die. You don't have the vaguest idea of what's going to happen to you after you die....we ALL have hope and expectations, but many of us do not defy the church that Christ PERSONALLY founded....and expect His ultimate reward.
741
posted on
06/01/2015 7:30:14 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
Comment #742 Removed by Moderator
To: Elsie
..do you not mean BELIEVE here? NO
743
posted on
06/01/2015 7:42:14 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
To: StormPrepper
In theory yes. But only if you have followed the actual plan that Jesus has set for His people to gain His grace. Grace isn't grace if it's earned.
If it's earned, it's wages due.
Grace by its very nature is something given to someone who doesn't deserve it.
Grace is given to us by God based on HIS character not our deserving it.
744
posted on
06/01/2015 7:52:04 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: Elsie; metmom; knarf
It means that nobody tends to read for content; in context; these days. Yep, some rightly divide the Word of Truth, but I think there is a lot of reading going on, where many things are taken out of context, misrepresented, and misinterpreted. Some of it is just out of ignorance, but it is possible some of it is done deliberately. I would like to know why, but people can look at the whole thing, and make up their own minds about which applies.
745
posted on
06/01/2015 7:53:30 PM PDT
by
Mark17
(Through all my days, and then in Heaven above, my song will silence never, I'll worship Him forever)
To: Elsie
YOPI = Your own personal interpretation
746
posted on
06/01/2015 7:53:33 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: terycarl
I DO know what’s going to happen to me when I die.
I’m going to heaven to be with Jesus FOREVER.
He promised it and I believe it and that’s exactly WHY I’m going to be there.
For those who aren’t sure of where they are going, that’s because they don’t really believe Jesus anyway, and since Jesus said that belief in Him is the criteria for entering heaven, then they don’t have it. If they’re not sure, they don’t really believe Him.
747
posted on
06/01/2015 7:57:28 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: verga
I made no error.
I posted exactly what I intended.
It’s not my responsibility or fault if someone doesn’t get it.
748
posted on
06/01/2015 7:58:19 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: verga
A) Free will doesn't exist B) Limited /conditional free will exists C) Unconditional Free will exists D) Something else entirely (Please explain) A) Free will doesn't exist - as an absolute. Even God cannot lie. And fallen man cannot live without ever sinning in facing the temptations Eve faced.
B) Limited /conditional free will exists, as per above. Yet more discussion would be necessary even on this, and its time for bed.
Related:
Catholic theology holds on the one hand that the efficacious grace given for the performance of an action obtains, infallibly, man's consent and that action takes place; on the other hand that in so acting, man is free. Hence the question: How can these two -the infallible result and liberty- be harmonized? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregatio_de_Auxiliis
749
posted on
06/01/2015 7:58:48 PM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: metmom
Likewise, how do YOU know you have the *true* faith? Because I'm a Catholic and Jesus said so.
750
posted on
06/01/2015 8:11:25 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
To: terycarl; metmom
LOL!
>> “Because I’m a Catholic and Jesus said so.” <<
A true gift for comedy!
.
751
posted on
06/01/2015 8:14:10 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Mr. Lucky
Not a very persuasive response. Say it better.
752
posted on
06/01/2015 8:14:17 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
To: Elsie
Doesn't Catholicism teach that ALL go to purgatory first?? NO
753
posted on
06/01/2015 8:18:45 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
To: metmom
Grace isn't grace if it's earned.
That's one way of looking at it.
However, if you don't mind, look at Matt 25:31-46. This is Jesus talking about the judgement.
Take note of these:
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
The righteous were allowed into the kingdom of God because of what they did. They will receive grace from Jesus because of what they do.
The wicked in verse 41 and 42 are just he opposite, they are cast out because what they didn't do.
Is there another way of interpreting this?
If you're of a mind to, you can tie this in with the book of James.
James 2:
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jesus doesn't mention faith in Matt 25 because He doesn't have to. He only has to look at what you do to judge your level of faith. It's quite brilliant actually.
To: stonehouse01
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I invite you to try that “blessed mother” stuff when you are standing at the Great White Throne, and Yeshua says “Depart from me, I never knew you.”
.
755
posted on
06/01/2015 8:19:27 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: terycarl
To: Elsie
Hold this thought... Mary is alive in Heaven. Where else would she be???
757
posted on
06/01/2015 8:21:13 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
To: Elsie
Rome TELLS us it is true! Pay attention, because it is.
758
posted on
06/01/2015 8:22:50 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
To: metmom
However, in answer to your question, I am saved. My sin IS forgiven now. I am seated with Christ in the heavenly places now. I am going to heaven when I die. Mom, how presumptuous of you to say that. How could you do such a thing? Don't you know that is a sin? 😂😇😎 Actually, I agree with you, and I am beyond caring what anyone thinks about it. Keep up the good work.
759
posted on
06/01/2015 8:25:42 PM PDT
by
Mark17
(Through all my days, and then in Heaven above, my song will silence never, I'll worship Him forever)
To: Elsie
46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life. Do you truly not comprehend the difference, in this sentence, between those who did and those who didn't??????
760
posted on
06/01/2015 8:27:54 PM PDT
by
terycarl
(COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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