[HarleyD]

The Catholic Church is no more a “force for good” than the nation of Israel was. And we know how that turned out. Only God is good and how He chooses to use events.

You may recall that during the time of Habakkuk, God raised up the Chaldean, a vicious and savage people, to deal with the Israelites. Would you say the Chaldean were a force for good?

God uses events to execute His will and perfect plan. That includes the Catholic Church, Joel Osteen, and ISIS. I wouldn't try to say one was "good" while the other "bad"-at least from God's perspective. The real question is whether they are following God's will as revealed through His word-not whether they are "a force".

[Elsie]

You may recall that during the time of Habakkuk, God raised up the Chaldean, a vicious and savage people, to deal with the Israelites.

I wonder who will be raised to deal with OUR nation?

We sure as HELL ain't on no path to repentance!