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Is the Catholic Church a Force for Good?
http://www.wordonfire.org ^ | May 25, 2015 | Matt Nelson

Posted on 05/25/2015 3:25:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Western civilization is greatly indebted to the Catholic Church. Modern historical studies—such as Dr. Thomas E. Woods' How The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization—have demonstrated with force and clarity that it is the Catholic Church who has been the primary driving force behind the development and progress of the civilized world.

The Church has provided innumerable 'goods' for the benefit of humanity. Nonetheless, modern critics assert that no amount of good could outweigh the evil the Church has allegedly committed in contrast. Talk is cheap, however. We must look at the evidence. Has the Church really been an irreconcilable force for evil in the world?

BIG QUESTIONS

There are three principal issues repeatedly brought to the table by adversaries of the Catholic Church: religious violence, priest scandals, and ill-treatment of women. But do these objections hold water when their integrity is put to the test? And are they enough to render the Church "no good" in our final analysis?

Now let's be clear: throughout the duration of this piece, I am not seeking in any way to deny or defend the sins of any Catholic individual or group. The chief question I propose is not whether there have been malicious members of the Catholic Church (there obviously have been). The question at hand is whether the Catholic Church as a whole ought to be considered a force for evil.

Let's consider briefly the general assertion that religion is the chief cause of violence in the world. This position, in fact, is not supported by the data. Joe Heschmeyer has shown this quite articulately in his recent article at Strange Notions, Is Religion Responsible For The World's Violence?

Evil members of a Church do not necessarily indicate an evil Church. One must be cautious; because this line of reasoning commits an error in logic called the fallacy of composition. We would not say, "the elephant consists of tiny parts, therefore the elephant is tiny"; and thus, we should not say that the Church is sinister because she has sinister members. The parts do not necessarily define the whole; and in the case of the Catholic Church, the parts justify the whole. As G.K Chesterton writes in The Everlasting Man:

“The Church is justified, not because her children do not sin, but because they do. ”

RECLAIMING THE HOMELAND

Sound historical scholarship has shown—contrary to what modern textbooks might falsely suggest—that the Crusades ought not be considered such a black mark in Catholic Church history. Dr. Diane Moczar summarizes the facts in her historical defense, Seven Lies About Catholic History:

"To recapitulate: the Crusades were a response to unprovoked Muslim aggression against Christian states, as well as a response to the enslavement, killing and persecution of countless followers of Christ. They were not examples of European colonialism or imperialism, which lay far in the future, nor were they intended to convert anybody; they were a military answer to a military attack." (p.73)

Moczar demonstrates that the Crusades were largely just (see CCC 2302-2317) and with far-reaching benefits for the people of Europe. She cites historian Louis Bréhier, who also concludes:

"It would be unjust to condemn out of hand these five centuries of heroism which had such fertile results for the history of Europe and which left behind in the consciences of modern peoples a certain ideal of generosity and a taste for sacrifice on behalf of noble causes....." (from The Crusades: The Victory Of Idealism)

Steven Weidenkopf, a lecturer of Church History at the Notre Dame Graduate School of Christendom College, has also clarified the true nature of the Crusades in his footnote-laden treatise, The Glory of the Crusades. Weidenkopf's title is bold, but his analysis is fair and evidence based. In his scholarly assessment of the Crusades he carefully notes:

"To recognize the glory of the Crusades means not to whitewash what was ignoble about them, but to call attention to the import in the life of the Church." (p.14)

Moczar likewise recognizes that not all things regarding the Crusades are to be "glorified." Nonetheless, both Moczar and Weidenkopf decisively demonstrate in their research that, by and large, the Catholic Church's participation in the Crusades ought not be considered evil nor unjust.

HANDLING HERETICS

The real story of the Inquisition is—like the Crusades—not congruent with what one finds in today's error-ridden history textbooks.

Statistics regarding the total number of Inquisition-related deaths have been shamefully embellished by antagonists of the Church, with some asserting numbers in the millions. Though the precise numbers are foggy, recent scholarship has put the number of deaths at just a few thousand over several centuries.

Modern research by historical experts, such as Henry Kamen, Benzion Netanyahu and Edward M. Peters, have demonstrated that the Inquisition was not nearly as harsh or cruel as popularly suggested. Overturning traditional views, they have shown that the Church courts were often both patient and fair in their treatment of heretics. In fact, Church officials were so reasonable in the Inquisition process that heretics in the secular courts (heresy was also a political concern) would blaspheme with hope that they might be transferred to the more merciful Church inquisitors.

This is not to deny, however, that the actions of some Christians were unjust. Moczar concludes:

"Were there cruel inquisitors in some places? Of course. Were methods of interrogation distasteful to modern sensibilities? Sure... [But] given its formidable task of guarding the purity of the Faith in Christian souls, however, the overall record of the Inquisition in dealing with heresy is not only defensible but admirable." (p. 102)

CELIBACY ISN'T THE PROBLEM

This is not a defense of the guilty. It is a defense of the unjustly accused and stigmatized. The data is clear—celibate Catholic priests are no more likely to abuse children than clergy from any another denomination, or even teachers and other secular adult leadership. As Ernie Allen, the president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, has stated:

“We don’t see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this [abuse] or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else." (Pat Wingert, “Mean Men,” Newsweek, April 8, 2010)

Professor of psychology, Dr. Thomas Plante, agrees with Allen:

"Catholic clergy aren’t more likely to abuse children than other clergy or men in general." ("Do the Right Thing", psychologytoday.com, March 24, 2010)

Celibacy is not the problem—and Dr. Chris Kaczor has made this decisively clear. He summarizes the evidence with this statement:

"The evidence is substantial and confirmed by psychologists, researchers, and insurance companies: Priestly celibacy is not a risk factor for the sexual abuse of children." ("Celibacy Isn't The Problem", This Rock, vol. 21, 5)

In his vastly informative book, The Seven Big Myths about the Catholic Church, Dr. Kaczor's research conclusively disarms the celibacy-leads-to-pedophilia myth and puts it to rest once and for all.

Indeed, Catholic clergy should be held to a higher standard—the highest standard in fact—but it is unreasonable to condemn the whole priesthood because of the sins of an ultra-minority. There is simply no good reason to fear Catholic clergy any more than other religious leaders, teachers or the general population. I say without hesitation (and as a dad) that Catholic priests, by and large, are among the most trustworthy citizens of our society today. And the data agrees.

"SHE SHALL BE CALLED WOMAN"

Finally, is the Church's view on women really immoral? Let's begin with the fiery issue of "female ordination": Why aren't women allowed to serve as priests in the Church? Is this not a violation of gender equality?

Properly understood, this is a matter of the Church's incapability to ordain women due to what a Catholic priest is. It is the nature of the priesthood that makes female ordination an impossibility. These key facts may help to underline this point:

I) Jesus called twelve apostles, all of whom were men (Mk 3:14-19; Lk 6:12-16)

II) The twelve apostles ordained men only to succeed them (1 Tim 3:1-13; 2 Tim 1:6; Titus 1:5-9)

III) These men were given a special gift and authority to serve in persona Christi or "in the person of Christ" (see 2 Cor 2:10; John 20:21-23)

IV) Christ was a man; therefore those who serve "in his person" must also be men.

Therefore a female Catholic priest is about as possible as a male mother. The nature of the Catholic priesthood renders female ordination impossible, just as male mothers are an impossibility because of the nature of motherhood. Indeed, male-only ordination is discriminatory; but this is not a matter of preference but of deference to the "nature of things"; for it is the nature of nature to discriminate.

St. John Paul the Great understood this with profound clarity:

"The Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and...this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful" (Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, 4).

What was Jesus' attitude toward women? Once again, we turn to the words of St. John Paul the Great:

"When it comes to setting women free from every kind of exploitation and domination, the gospel contains an ever relevant message that goes back to the attitude of Jesus Christ himself. Transcending the established norms of his own culture, Jesus treated women with openness, respect, acceptance, and tenderness. In this way he honored the dignity that women have always possessed according to God's plan and in his love." (Letter to Women, 3)

Like her Founder, the Catholic Church reveres 'woman' and attributes to her the highest dignity. The mother of Christ, for example, has been widely revered by Catholics from the earliest centuries of Christianity as the mother of all Christians (Jn 19:26-27). No person in history—except perhaps Christ Himself—has received more love and honour than Mary. The Church has also named four female Doctors of the Church—Sts. Teresa of Avila, Catherine of Siena, Therese of Lisieux and Hildegard of Bingen—and recognized them for their extraordinary influence on the life of the universal Christian Church.

And is it not true that women largely tend to avoid places where they are unfairly discriminated against and patronized? If the Catholic Church really treated women unjustly, would we not expect a female aversion to the Church? Surely. But this is not what we find.

Notre Dame theologian, Catherine Lacugna, states:

85% of those responsible for altar preparation are women. Over 80% of the CCD (religious formation) teachers and sponsors of the catechumenate are women. Over 75% of adult Bible study leaders or participants are women. Over 70% of those who are active in parish renewal and spiritual growth are women, and over 80% of those who join prayer groups are women. Nearly 60% of those involved with youth groups and recreational activities are women. (Catholic Women As Ministers And Theologians, 240)

Women are not afraid of the Church. They are attracted to it. Why? Because she fights for the beauty and dignity of femininity as no other institution on earth does.

Referring to the words of his saintly predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI said these words in praise of women:

"As my venerable and dear Predecessor John Paul II wrote in his Apostolic Letter Mulieris Dignitatem: "The Church gives thanks for each and every woman.... The Church gives thanks for all the manifestations of the feminine 'genius' which have appeared in the course of history, in the midst of all peoples and nations." (General Audience, February 14, 2007)

FINAL THOUGHTS

In the final analysis, the Catholic Church is unquestionably a force for good in the world—indeed a force for greatness. She always has been; and because the gates of hell can never prevail against her, she always will be. We have Christ's promise.

Yes, the Church has proven herself to be the lifeline of our civilization—and without her—humanity will fail to thrive. As the great defender of the Church, Hilaire Belloc, concluded in Survivals And New Arrivals:

"If the influence of the Church declines, civilization will decline with it... Our civilization is as much a product of the Catholic Church as the vine is the product of a particular climate. Take the vine to another climate and it will die."

May God continue to bless His Church for goodness' sake.


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To: JPII Be Not Afraid; BlueDragon
y. A Catholic has one true deposit of faith given by the Holy Spirit to draw from. It has one complete belief that was instituted by Jesus Himself and has been contemplated and meditated on for 2000 years. Some chose to call themselves Catholic and not follow the churches teachings, but that is their problem. We pray for those. Just because you read the bible does not give you an authority to speak truth. The Catholic church does.

Just more indoctrination ...

Rome has no "authority"

We have great commentary, traditions, the bible, and the catechism to answer questions in regards to matters of faith.

Could you link us the the infallible commentary written by the magisterium? (Pass I think not because your "teaching arm" has never written an INFALLIBLE commentary of the entire bible )..any commentatary you may have is simply the fallible work of men

161 posted on 05/26/2015 2:03:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; ealgeone; metmom
That's how Catholics view Christ's sacrifice on the cross? That He simply "opened the gates"? Is this a view of all Catholics?

If it is it's a slap in the face of Christ. No wonder they can't be assured of salvation. We've got good news Catholics. CHRIST PAID THE FULL PRICE!! YOUR SINS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN!

162 posted on 05/26/2015 2:05:34 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7; onyx
I understand now, you used to be Catholic. I do pray for you everyday, but now I really know what to pray for, your return. I think you should take onyx's advice.

Peace be with you, RnMomof7!
163 posted on 05/26/2015 2:27:13 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: impimp
If He was speaking figuratively then why did John 6:66 take place? People don’t usually leave when someone speak figuratively.

: Please read the text, you will see that the discourse on "the bread" was past.. . Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you?
62 Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!
63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit[e] and life. 64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him.
65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

They walked away , but the issue was not "eating" his flesh..it was His claim of deity >

They did not like hearing that salvation had to be given them and much like the manna in the desert, it was totally a gift of the Father. They could not do anything on their own to earn it, they only had access to it by faith ( remember the Jews could only gather enough manna for the one days meals, and for 2 days on the day before the sabbath, they had to have faith in God to provide what was necessary for their life) . The idea that salvation was all of God and not found in law keeping was blasphemy to the law oriented Jews that felt their salvation was based on their will, their law keeping etc

To make an attempt to make this a teaching on the Lords supper misses the mark. Christ was still alive and in His flesh and he was, by your reckoning , telling them to do something they could not do because the Lords Supper had not been instituted yet,it is a spiritual eating and drinking that is here spoken of, not a sacramental.

This was clearly a metaphorical teaching to Jews looking for a Physical savior like Moses, and for physical bread to meet their physical hunger. Jesus always used symbols that the Jews understood to make spiritual points.

Notice Peters response when asked if he wanted to leave too...

68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

Peter did not ask for that BREAD.. ... He said Jesus had the WORDS of eternal life.. not the bread.. he affirmed the deity of Christ

164 posted on 05/26/2015 2:34:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: CynicalBear; RnMomof7; ealgeone; metmom
So you mean all I have to do is say the words "Jesus Christ is my personal savior" and I am done? Really? You mean I don't have to worry about being Christ like, I can disregard every word He has said. I just say the words. Why I don't even need a bible, I said the words. I never have to worry about anything. I can sit in my chair and wait for me to die, because I said the words. Thanks everyone, I'm all set now, I said the words. I am going to Heaven!!

This is what your truth boils down to. Sound pretty silly to me.
165 posted on 05/26/2015 2:36:09 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: RnMomof7

Great. I am not going to discuss the text any longer as I disagree with you and you disagree with me. It reassures me that on a percentage basis very few people in history would agree with you and many more would agree with me. It is especially reassuring that apostolic successors agree with me.


166 posted on 05/26/2015 2:58:19 PM PDT by impimp
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To: MamaB

The Serapeum which was burned about 391 AD by Pope Theophilus’s decree.


You did spell his name correct. For the record, though, he was a Pope in the Coptic Church of Alexandria.


167 posted on 05/26/2015 2:58:35 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Do you trust the Church that Christ established?

Reading comprehension a bit LOW today?

168 posted on 05/26/2015 3:13:59 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
“If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” —Jesus

..being SEVERELY edited by a minion of Rome.


Is this the ONLY tune you play?

169 posted on 05/26/2015 3:15:01 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Sta has no shame; as he continually posts this snippet.

I guess he hopes that Lurkers will be taken by it and rush to the nearest Catholic church and throw themselves on the altar.

170 posted on 05/26/2015 3:17:54 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: onyx

Are you going to PRAY this to Mary?


171 posted on 05/26/2015 3:18:43 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
You may be a Christian, but you have no authority.

Says WHO?

Surely not the Lord of the Universe!

172 posted on 05/26/2015 3:19:35 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ex-snook
But you aren't the Pope so I won't believe you, sorry.

Heck; you probably don't 'believe' the things your CURRENT pope says!

173 posted on 05/26/2015 3:20:22 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ex-snook
But you aren't the Pope so I won't believe you, sorry.

So; you do NOT believe what is CLEARLY written in Scripture.

WOW!


174 posted on 05/26/2015 3:21:04 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
So you mean all I have to do is say the words "Jesus Christ is my personal savior" and I am done? Really? You mean I don't have to worry about being Christ like, I can disregard every word He has said. I just say the words. Why I don't even need a bible, I said the words. I never have to worry about anything. I can sit in my chair and wait for me to die, because I said the words. Thanks everyone, I'm all set now, I said the words. I am going to Heaven!! This is what your truth boils down to. Sound pretty silly to me.

Nope....no Christian has ever made that claim. Maybe that's how catholics like to spin it, but the true Christian is a follower of Christ and follows and does what He says.

I'm not sure what you mean about "never have to worry about anything", but the follower of Christ, as they have been sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise is secure in their eternal destination.

The believer has been adopted into God's family. An understanding of adoption in the first century as used by Paul in Romans really brings to clarity the position of the believer in Christ.

Will the believer still sin? Sadly, yes we will. But we have forgiveness through Christ as He has nailed our sins to the cross. Do we confess our sins? Yes we do and He is faithful and just to forgive us as John notes.....and we can go straight to the throne of grace for that forgiveness.

As followers of Christ we are to produce fruit. That is clear in the NT. No Christian denies that. What is denied is that the fruit we produce saves us. No. What saves us is faith in Christ.

As noted in John 3:16.....whosoever believes in Him shall never perish, but have eternal life.

175 posted on 05/26/2015 3:24:45 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: impimp
For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.


1 Corinthians 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.


I've heard that Scripture tends to interpret itself.

176 posted on 05/26/2015 3:25:05 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
I do pray for you everyday, but now I really know what to pray for, your return.



177 posted on 05/26/2015 3:26:32 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
This is what your truth boils down to.

Sorry; but it's YOUR strawman that has been boiled in the pot.

178 posted on 05/26/2015 3:27:33 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: impimp
Great. I am not going to discuss the text any longer as I disagree with you and you disagree with me.

So; we've got two disagreeable persons here.

So what DOES the text say?

179 posted on 05/26/2015 3:28:25 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: impimp
It reassures me that on a percentage basis very few people in history would agree with you and many more would agree with me.

That's just wonderful!


180 posted on 05/26/2015 3:30:04 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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