Posted on 05/22/2015 8:54:09 PM PDT by imardmd1
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What Catholic mysticism does is reject the Bible as the sole and sufficient and perfect revelation of God and tries to delve beyond the Bible, even beyond thought of any kind, and find God through mystical “intuition.” In other words, it is a rejection of the God of the Bible. It says that God cannot be known by doctrine and cannot be described in words. He can only be experienced through mysticism. This is a blatant denial of the Bible’s claim to be the very Word of God.
This opens the practitioner to demonic delusion. He is left with no perfect objective revelation of God, no divinely-revealed authority by which he can test his mystical experiences and intuitions. He is left with an idol of his own vain imagination (Jeremiah 17:9) and a doctrine of devils.
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She (Sue Monk Kidd) determined that she was willing to lose her marriage, if necessary.
"I would not, could not forfeit my journey for my marriage or for the sake of religious acceptance or success as a ‘Christian writer.’ I would keep moving in my own way to the strains of feminine music that sifted up inside me, not just moving but embracing the dance. ... I felt the crumbling of the old patriarchal foundation our marriage had rested upon in such hidden and subtle ways. Though both of us would always need to compromise, there was no more sacrificing myself, no more revolving around him, no more looking to him for validation, trying to be what I thought he needed me to be. My life, my time, my decisions became newly my own" (pp. 98, 125).
(Excerpt) Read more at wayoflife.org ...
In Heaven, we will see Catholic Christians and Protestant Christians and all this fuss will be about nothing.
We should stick together and pray for salvation for the non Christians
Catholics vote for democrats already, talking about the bible can’t make it any worse.
white Catholics voted 56 to 43 for Romney. Hispanic Catholics voted 76 percent for Obama.
I suspect that he has read of the other authors and that they would probably like his definition of Catholic spirituality, because he approaches this area from a Biblical POV, that of a firmly independent, fundamental, immersionist, disciplined study of many different other worldviews than merely Catholicism. Part of his interest arises from the fact that he is a successful evangelist planting churches in Nepal, where his opposition is not only Hinduism and Buddhism but also "charismatic christians." Unlike Teresa, he has the guts to tell Hindus and Buddhists and charismatists and Catholicists that their appraoch to spirituality is false and unprofitable.
Searching his Way of Life website on just the word "Merton" yields these papers from the first four of eight pages of related Cloud-written articles:
Thomas Merton: The Catholic Buddhist Mystic
Roman Catholics in Love With Eastern Religions
Evangelicals Turning to Roman Catholic Contemplative Spirituality
The Unifying Power of End-Times Mysticism
Richard Foster, Evangelicalism's Mystical Sparkplug
Contemplative Practices
Contemplative Spirituality: Dancing With Demons
Delusions of Madame Guyon
Beware of Leonard Sweet: Master of Doublespeak
A Visit to the Vineyard Church, Anaheim, CA
Henri Nouwen
The Path From Independent Baptist to the Shack, Rome and Beyond
Brennan Manning
Beware of Brennan Manning
Paul Chappell's Pragmatism and Dangerous Associations
John Piper's Contradictory Position on Contemplative Prayer
Beware of the Ragamuffin Gospel
Basil Pennington and Thomas Keating
Eric Wyse and Contemporary Praise Music
Bede Griffiths, Rome's Expanding Tent
UN and the New Age
Philip Yancey and Dangers in Christian Bookstores
Perhaps you could get a better grasp of his approach by reading a few of these incisive critiques.
I'm sure one's outlook on spirituality is highly dependent on one's hermeneutic.
The Catholic vote went democrat as it has in almost every presidential election in history, this recent immigration from catholic countries has not changed that.
The Catholic vote hasn’t changed, and it won’t be changing.
You've hit the nail right smack on the head, MB! The Greek word for "worship" as found in the Gospels is proskunehoh, which is "to bow or kneel in homage to" someone or something.
did you not read my post? I think it is more ethnicity that it is a religion. I like I said before and I’ll say it again white Catholics voted 56% of 43 percent. Just because Obama is letting in a zillion immigrants don’t blame us.
No, it isn’t, that white catholics are waking up a little and voting more with Protestants doesn’t mean much, Rome rules Catholicism, it isn’t a race, and the Catholic vote will remain as it always has been.
Hispanics didn’t start voting in large numbers until very recently.
Hispanics were not the ones delivering the Catholic vote to Bill Clinton.
If someone asks you personally to pray for them, maybe someone whom you really love who has a horrible injury, or is going through a crisis of some sort, do you stand firm in what you are preaching and tell them that no, you won’t pray for them because they need to approach His “Throne boldly” and do such for themself? Or are you at odds with your teachings, finding yourself praying for them, even though you teach that someone else, specifically Jesus’s mom, shouldn’t be asked to pray for them?
BTW, need to answer me. You can talk with Him about asking His mom to pray for others when you see Him.
Catholics voted 52 to 48 for Obama the Jewish vote went 70 30 for Obama. You would think religious groups would be turned off by him. I know on Staten Island Catholics overwhelmingly voted against Obama. it is saddening that 43 percent of white Catholics voted for Obama. That is 43% too much. but are they really Catholics if they vote for a pro abortion president?
Don’t you think it is a little creepy for a white man who grew up in a Protestant country, to be speaking as you are about Catholics who grew up in Catholic nations, especially since white Catholics are leaving Catholicism in America?
The catholic vote will remain what it has always been, to the left.
well 52 48 isn’t exactly a blowout lol. I can hold out hope. the overwhelming Protestant vote for Republicans should cancel that 4 percent margin among Catholics easily. It might be the 19 to 1 ratio among blacks that is doing a little more damage
Which denomination, I don’t know how most church denominations vote, do you?
The Catholics, our largest denomination, votes democrat, the Southern Baptists, our second largest denomination, goes about 80% republican.
Different church denominations don’t all vote the same, but the majority of non-Catholic Christians, vote republican, while the majority of Catholics, vote democrat.
That is disingenuous and illogical. Since zI am born of fallen man and woman and hence carry originall sin it is illogical to suggest that that is participation in my redemption
You are confused. Salvation is by grace and grace alone.
you keep breaking down American voting by religion. That’s cool. That’s one way to do it. And the other way is to look at it by ethnicity. If you look at it that way it doesn’t matter what denomination blacks are when its 19 to 1. I know you can’t really believe that a 52% to 48% votng margin for Democrats among Catholics is the reason that Republican president lose elections. if we are only 25 percent of christians then the other 75 percent voting 80% Republican should overwhelm the slim margin we give Democrats. for some reason it does not..
Au contraire.... There is a great need to answer such a post. In the post, we can see the need for the Roman Cultists to respond with simplistic challenges alleging that we just don't know the right formula, or we wouldn't dare say no to our Mom.
My Mom is dead. She prayed for me often (or at least she told me she did). I was probably in need of it.I can certainly use all of the help I can find.
BUT, I just cannot find anything in Scripture about seeking dead people to pray for anyone. We do not see in Scripture any allusion that dead people have the ability or the need to pray for us. We are certainly on our own, when it comes to the dead.
BUT (another one), we are also told to pray one for another. Dead people can't speak, but anybody, friend, family member, or foe, are a constant target for our prayers to the FATHER. Nowhere in Scripture do we see anything that alludes or tells us directly (or indirectly) to ask the dead to pray for us.
If you have any Scriptural evidence of your claims, feel free to post them and I will try an respond accordingly.
In the meantime, remember that Jesus died for our sins. Mary just birthed a child!
You keep trying to break down members of your church by race, with the non-whites as being something, less, it seems.
I was finding fault with your post 20, where you seemed to threaten to join the majority of Catholics, and not vote republican, because the majority of Christians in America don’t believe the same thing about Mary as your leaders in Europe teach you about her.
I wonder if you meant that you might just quit voting pro-life, or switch to the democrats like most members of your church.
What is it with you people??? The issue is NOT asking someone to pray for you...The issue is you people praying to the mother of Jesus and devoting your lives to her...The issue is you people asking Mary to give you salvation, and mercy and hope...
You guys keep pretending this issue is never raised while the only response is, 'don't you ever ask someone to pray for you'???
Can you be honest enough to respond to the issue presented???
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