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To: MHGinTN

Since we are saved by accepting Jesus and are then infilled with the Holy Spirit, how can anyone be saved after the ‘rapture’? After all, under dispensational pre-trib rapture theory, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are no longer here to infill those who ‘accept’ Jesus, as evangelised by the Jews so absent the Holy Spirit, how can ANY be saved?

Perhaps instead of debating with fellow Believers, and causing ill feelings, debating when and how Christ is going to return, we should focus on His last instructions to His disciples to ‘Go and make disciples of all nations.’

If He is as good as His Word, and I have no evidence to the contrary, He promises us Salvation. If we believe on Him, how history all ends should not matter if we are saved. Debating how history ends, takes time away from living the Great Commission and if we are not living that way, are we not robbing Jesus? Are we not inadvertantly doing the Evil One’s bidding by NOT focusing on the Great Commission? There are already too many things that I focus my attention on which take away from such a task.


65 posted on 05/22/2015 9:29:20 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
You really should study to show yourself approved a workman worthy of the hire. I bet you haven't a clue regarding Old Testament Saints and Church Saints and Tribulation Saints. And the work of the Holy Spirit must be a mystery to you in this Age. If you do good deeds for someone and they ask you about the hope that is within you, what will you tell them if you don't comprehend what God is doing in the Church Age, what His Holy Spirit is doing, and what He intends to do to cleanse the Earth?

Could it be that speaking the particulars of The Gospel makes you uncomfortable, but doing busy work makes you forget how much you've avoided learning? There are lessons shouting at you from the parable of the sower and the seed and the good seed that came up and brought forth harvest.

I know lots of church attenders who love to get busy doing work for God, in order to avoid His Throne room. If you are called to spread the Gospel, you better know what it is or your works will be in vane.

Such an attitude as you are presenting ('don't contend for the Faith, just do good works and leave the rest to God') is precisely the note upon which Chrislam will sweep the ignorant away, for Islam teaches good works are a saving grace, and you're attitude is too close to that same pitfall. The Holy Spirit has ALWAYS been here, but in the Church Age He is also indwelling believers, thus making of them The Body of Christ to be Raptured away.

70 posted on 05/22/2015 9:42:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian; MHGinTN
..But those weren't His last words. His last words were spoken to Paul. And were revelations for the Church the Body of Christ. From Romans through Philemon. Giving us the beginning of the dispensation of the grace of God, the formation of the Church the Body of Christ, the role of the Body, when it began, what its duties are, and how it will end. Those things can only be found in Paul's epistles. Because the dispensation of grace was given to him from the risen Christ. Paul continually speaks of seeing and speaking to Christ face to face, and his being caught up to third heaven, and the revelations (PLURAL, NOT SINGULAR) that were given to him for the Church the Body of Christ.

We aren't preaching the Kingdom, Messianic gospel as Christ gave to Peter and the 11. We are preaching the Cross, the gospel of salvation by grace through faith, as given to Paul, the Apostle to the Gentiles. We are ambassadors for Christ, preaching reconciliation between God and man, based solely on the finished work of Christ.

71 posted on 05/22/2015 9:43:24 PM PDT by smvoice ("Now is the accepted time; now is the day of salvation" 2Cor. 6:2)
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