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To: dp0622

If you support a communist, you are a communist. If you support a liberal, Dem or Republican flavor, you are a liberal.

Not one Catholic has to disavow God to stand up to this communist POS and what he and the liberals have done to the faith. But supporting them is supporting their bastardized version of it.

The pope is a man. And even that is questionable. Lets say male. Nowhere in scripture do I see that we are to follow and support evil or evil men.


18 posted on 05/19/2015 5:44:50 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’m not smart enough to know at what point a pope crosses a threshold that makes not attending mass or receiving the sacraments viable.
I don’t know.
Plus he hasn’t actually rescinded anything big in the way of doctrine.
Like I said, I don’t know. I’m far from a theologian.
I think he’s a kook and obviously Marxist.
Can popes be impeached?
Between his socialist views and the gay mafia, some change is in order.


24 posted on 05/19/2015 5:51:54 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Norm Lenhart
Nowhere in scripture do I see that we are to follow and support evil or evil men.

Scripture maybe, but the CCC and pronouncements of previous popes is a different matter, where submission to the Roman pontiff is demanded for salvation.

34 posted on 05/19/2015 6:06:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Mark17
I once read a very interesting sermon, delivered to the Massachusetts legislature in 1776 (I think that was the year) and it was based on Romans 13:3 & 4 ... ;

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid {5737}; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.


I remember he was a Congregationalist preacher/pastor and he spoke to help Massachusetts understand their Christian stand in the war for independence

If I can find it ... I'll post it

But suffice it to be true that, Scripture DOES address leaders that are wrong and/or evil, and that we can be relieved of any obligation to them .... if they no longer are for our good

153 posted on 05/21/2015 2:45:10 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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