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To: HossB86
God will not violate someone's free will, even to stop them from plummeting into Hell, and we KNOW that God is love, unconditional love toward usward. Since we do not know the thoughts of Mary's heart prior to Gabriel being sent to her, we really cannot say how it is that God knew Mary would bow her head and say 'thank you, Lord; be it unto me according to God's will.' To raise Mary to a spot where even some would have to come through her to Christ's Kingdom is, well, contradicting the Bible! Jesus said No man cometh unto the Father but by Me.' He didn't say 'but by me and my Mom'. But Mary consented to the mothering, sheltering of an Holy One from God.

God did not force or compel her. And that is the more astonishing, that God would choose a lowly Jewish girl betrothed to a Jewish man in order to cometh in the flesh to this world to save us who are doomed without His Grace and Mercy.

My mother was impregnated by a rape, yet she had such love and fear of the Lord that she brought me forth anyway, as her third child. It is indeed a power pro-life message that Mary chose the rigors of child bearing instead of rejecting the Holy One of God. Any woman or girl pregnant with another living human being should take a lead from Mary's bowed head.

295 posted on 05/20/2015 9:11:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
God will not violate someone's free will, even to stop them from plummeting into Hell, and we KNOW that God is love, unconditional love toward usward.,

So... God is not sovereign?

To imply that we can, in some way, decline God's will for our lives (as in some way to "refuse" salvation) is to make God someone WE can in some way control or influence; God would no longer be... God.

John 6:

37All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

And later...

44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day

we really cannot say how it is that God knew Mary would bow her head and say 'thank you, Lord; be it unto me according to God's will.'

Actually, we really can: it was God's will for her. God is sovereign. He is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and eternal. If not, he's not God.

No doubt, Mary favored; Gabriel said so. But, because God CHOSE her, it would BE her.

Hoss

302 posted on 05/20/2015 10:26:15 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: MHGinTN
It is indeed a power pro-life message that Mary chose the rigors of child bearing instead of rejecting the Holy One of God.

Any choosing that went on 2000 some years ago was by JOSEPH!

He 'chose' not to divorce her!

335 posted on 05/20/2015 2:53:30 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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